I too enjoyed the mispacks. My favorite official level is the black cathedral (hip2m2 i believe). So many good memories. Also the theme from limbo and the gauntlet is one of the best takes on runic ever. I actually mad a map several years ago for hipnotic but never released it. I probly should. 

I should just start releasing my old maps. Who cares if they aren't "worthy" or whatever. They can be fun. 

There is official hipnotic SDK. It contains few example maps, showing new functionality like rotatable doors etc. 

Yeah, I don't know why people don't talk about them that much. So far, they are universally better than base Quake. Cool monsters, cool weapons, even cooler architecture and dynamic elements, something Quake had almost none of.

Khreathor, where can I get the SDK? I don't see it in Steam tools. Is there any place I can find more specific information on what exactly was added to the mission packs beyond the monsters/weapons (like the rotatable doors you mentioned)? 

I didn't mean to say base Quake didn't have dynamic elements. It certainly did. I just mean the dynamic elements are more frequent and more complicated in the mission packs; they are done very well. 

Perhaps we could to a mission pack jam or a min-episode. I would be up for that. 

release your maps!!! who cares what people think? 

:) hopefully a mod will approve them soon.

Well, the handful I submitted anyway. 

Here: Hipnotic Devkit

(it's a devkit not sdk ;) sdk is software development kit - my bad...)

Problem with mapping for Mission Packs is that they require you to have Mission Packs... ;) and there are lots of players not having them.

Btw you'll find hipnotic code in many modern mods. 

Would you care if I released an early unfinished version of my ubermod, called the Keep mod, if we did this after Jam 9 in a few weeks? Then you could use whatever you wanted from the mission packs. Together. Gremlins and candles and wrath and droles and crossbow knights in the same map if you wanted to. ? 

 

Thanks a bunch. Where did you even find that? Is there a similar devkit for Rogue? 

I think Hipnoting came up with some good weapons, whereas Rogue went a bit over the top by adding another two nailguns. Even ID made the mistake of putting two very similar weapons into the game, but at the cause of time constraints. On that front I think Doom did better IMO. 

Except that the laser cannon is grossly overpowered, putting oht more damage than any other weapon while using less ammo...and it ricochets! 

Is there any place I can find more specific information on what exactly was added to the mission packs beyond the monsters/weapons (like the rotatable doors you mentioned)?

Here, for both expansions: https://www.quakewiki.net/archives/worldcraft/index2.shtm

Also have SoA's devkit (don't know from where i got it) but i don't think there is a devkit/SDK for DoE too. 

DoE's progs are based on hipnotic, you can find some stuff here:
DoE sources

This page has a list of usefull stuff:
http://www.quakeone.com/navigator/

Quite outdated and many links are dead, but still has some valuable resources. 

I don't see the information I was curious about in the page you linked. 

i forgot to check the message, and the url doesn't change after clicking on the sections of the web, so i'll have to link directly to each.

https://www.quakewiki.net/archives/worldcraft/entity/hipnotic/hipnotic.shtm
https://www.quakewiki.net/archives/worldcraft/entity/rogue/rogue.shtm

With this, SoA's devkit and DoeE's Qc i think you can get the picture of what there is on those expansions. 

What are you wanting to do with the mispacks? 

I'm just curious. I've played many maps and mods that modify base Quake in some way (usually in a lot of ways) and I realized that I couldn't parse what was and what was not base Quake. 

off the top of my head, has no rotating anything, nor breakable walls or pushable things.

Base Quake doesn't have mecha-scorpions, gremlins, sticky grenades, laser guns, multi-grenades, multi-rockets, chain lightning guns, lava nails, swinging blade traps, moving water, Egyptian mummies or statue monsters, dragons or floating wraith-things that summon monsters.

Base Quake only has axe, 2 shotguns, 2 nailguns, grenade and rocket launcher and lightning gun. Base Quake has only dogs, grunts, enforcers, ogres, scrags, fiends, knights/hellknights, shambler, tarbaby and vore. Base Quake has nothing more exotic than buttons, lifts, teleporters, floating platforms and sideways moving doors. 

And fish and zombies chthon. And lava and slime.

Pst, wraiths from rogue don't spawn monsters, wrath in AD do.

Pst, chain lightning gun is from other mods (such as zerstorer and painkeep v3.0) not the mispacks. 

I see no "new topic" button anywhere?! 

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