It Was About Building A Loyal Audience...
#28241 posted by anonymous user on 2016/10/05 17:11:05
...people who liked the kinds of things they were creating...
Yup, that's what being popular means.
#28242 posted by Killes on 2016/10/05 17:17:24
"It was about building a loyal audience with people who liked the kinds of things they were creating. This is not the same thing as trying to please everyone."
Spot on. Not everyone around were gore / thrash metal / NIN fans back then nor are they today. They were definitely making games for like minded tastes. The games themselves were good which got them success despite their vibe.
They could of also gone a more clean star trek / star wars / marathon vibe but no their thing was thrash metal horror movie culture stuff, with lovecraftian stuff and dark industrial sounds later on with Quake.
After that point though they lost the aspect of creating a consistent vibe within their own "pop culture", surely due to the team breaking apart or the teams evolution of taste going separate ways.
Doom 4 is in those vibes now by design to punt on the nostalgic aspect. The teams are way too large now to have this kind of thing organically appear.
Luckily a pretty decent effort was made of it, they sure hired the right music guy, they seems to also have hired the right art guys etc etc.
And we should not forget to thank Sergeant Mark IV for Brutal Doom, without its demonstration of the popularity potential of ultraviolence in this context I don't think Doom4 would of been what it is.
Boom! Spot-on
#28243 posted by
Mugwump on 2016/10/05 20:56:04
And we should not forget to thank Sergeant Mark IV for Brutal Doom, without its demonstration of the popularity potential of ultraviolence in this context I don't think Doom4 would of been what it is.
Without the Br�tal Doom inspiration, I have a strong feeling that Doom 2016 would've been yet another major disappointment.
Too Bad The Mod Itself Is So Trashy
#28244 posted by
dwere on 2016/10/05 21:38:53
Poppycock
#28245 posted by anonymous user on 2016/10/05 22:47:20
Gobbledygook, Hogglewash
Anyone Who Hates Brutal Doom Is A SJW Feminist Cuck
#28246 posted by Vivian James on 2016/10/06 04:24:45
Thought I'd Share This
#28247 posted by
Qmaster on 2016/10/06 06:05:44
For all those who weren't completely a fan of the Quakeguy jump sound and his noisy landing. These are the "huhmp!" and "ooph!" sounds redone using the footsteps used in AD as a base:
Jump:
jump.wav
Jumpland:
jumpland.wav
<engages shield> <braces for flak>
Everybody Looks At The Past
#28248 posted by primal (nli) on 2016/10/06 09:01:54
Talk above on id's history reminded me of some of the things Carmack said in his BAFTA speech this year.
"I can remember when I was a teenager, and I was convinced that I'd missed the golden age of Apple II gaming, that I would never get to be Richard Garriott," [Carmack] told the audience.
"The opportunities I had aren't there for people today, but there are new and better ones. And, personally, I'm more excited about these than any that have come before."
Source
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2016-04-12-thank-you-for-this-honour-but-im-just-getting-started
John Romero At GDC EU
#28249 posted by
PRITCHARD on 2016/10/06 11:04:13
video
General overview of the history of id while he was there, with a few Quake bits at the end + he answers a few Q&A questions about Quake.
I Know D4's Night Sentinels Are Their Own Thing But
#28250 posted by
aDaya on 2016/10/06 11:06:18
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/40/1475744709-night-sentinel-ranger.png
I saw it too fitting since I always saw Q1's human bases as a mix between raypunk and dieselpunk, adding a mix of medieval into it just fits.
Qmaster
#28251 posted by
Kinn on 2016/10/06 11:18:44
No flak, I tread over those noises too - the grunts are so annoying.
#28252 posted by
dwere on 2016/10/06 13:46:29
I'm much more annoyed by the hard landing sound. It sounds like your bones crack a little every time. By far the most cringe-inducing sound in the entire game, and the best reminder that the Quakeguy must be in constant pain from all the injuries he sustained.
#28253 posted by
PRITCHARD on 2016/10/06 13:50:27
Being in constant pain makes it really metal. It's part of the Quake aesthetic /s
#28254 posted by Killes on 2016/10/06 14:00:27
In Doom too. Come to think of it its really missing from Doom 4.
No pain sounds, no grimacing bloody portrait etc.
Weird, did they have a reason for this ?
I guess everyone needs to be a superhero like character or something.
#28255 posted by
Kinn on 2016/10/06 14:07:13
and the best reminder that the Quakeguy must be in constant pain from all the injuries he sustained
But that's what keeps him going. The indescribable, infinite pain, that continuously infuses every aspect of his body and mind.
Like Me When I Play Marcher Fotress
#28256 posted by
DaZ on 2016/10/06 14:32:13
ooiOioiOiOioiio
#28257 posted by
mankrip on 2016/10/06 19:39:01
I've realized I was in a bad mood due to lack of sleep and other personal stuff. Disregard my previous comments.
Don't Mistake Jealousy For Pain, Daz
#28258 posted by
SleepwalkR on 2016/10/06 20:05:51
Could Try Smaller Buttplug?
#28260 posted by
Kinn on 2016/10/07 01:33:14
So That's What Hardcore Gaming Is All About
#28261 posted by
dwere on 2016/10/07 01:52:50
#28262 posted by
Mugwump on 2016/10/07 03:34:41
If I wore that thing you'd have to call me Cameltoe.
Jessica Jones, S01E05
New Directors Commentary On Bioshock
#28263 posted by
killpixel on 2016/10/07 07:19:30
#28260.
#28264 posted by
Shambler on 2016/10/07 11:34:38
Don't even know what that's replying to, but I agree.
Another 44khz Shotgun Sound Test
#28265 posted by anonymous user on 2016/10/07 15:45:56