Can I Get The Wad Files For Ad Maps?
#247 posted by boristhesp1der on 2017/08/16 18:24:22
i'd love to merge start and ad_chapters into a single map, but I can't compile my frankenmap since I'm missing most of the necessary textures. ad_chapters relies on wads from the actual maps it displays instead of having a wad for itself. ad_start.wad is included in the maps folder for some reason, but the others are not.
i've looked through the mapping section of the ad readme file, the files included in the ad devkit and searched online for these files, but to no avail. I can't easily extract them using bsp2wad either since I have no x86 windows available to me. I know you can set up a virtual machine to get around that problem, but I figured I'd ask for other solutions here first.
right now I'm using trenchbroom, and it doesn't seem to be able to access the textures from the bsps directly. i read the the section about setting mods up in the trenchroom manual, no mention of anything other than wads. Do other editors like worldcraft or gtkradiant have this capability? trenchbroom can load the textures directory from pak files, but that doesn't help since ad is built on a pakless file structure.
also, where are effect textures like the new explosion sprite stored in ad? i looked through the textures and gfx folders and even checked if it was attached to the texture of a mdl file, but didn't find anything. did i just miss it or is it stored in progs.dat or some other place i cant fathom?
Open Ad_sepulcher.bsp In Texmex
#248 posted by damage_inc on 2017/08/16 18:38:05
It will state invalid version number but continue anyway.
From there you can "save copy" to wad3. Now you have the .wad file/textures.
Use Bsputil
#249 posted by ericw on 2017/08/16 19:30:04
bsputil --extract-textures foo.bsp
from:
https://ericwa.github.io/tyrutils-ericw/
or, tyrann's original tool is probably easier to compile if I don't have a binary for your platform:
http://disenchant.net/utils/
Or
If you want the ad_chapters textures, open ad_chapters in TexMex and save it as .wad.
#251 posted by boristhesp1der on 2017/08/16 20:21:09
thank you, that helps! :)
any ideas on the explosion texture though?
I'm Probably Worng...
#252 posted by d3vious.g3nius on 2017/08/16 23:58:06
But I think you're thinking of the particle effects incorrectly. They're not sprite based. So there will not be a set of explosion textures etc.
There's a particles folder with a particlefont.tga inside. I think you couple that with the Quakespasm "Spiked" engine modification and that gives you the effects.
Turns Out I Did Miss Them
#253 posted by boristhesp1der on 2017/08/17 01:00:05
what i mean are actually sprites, even though the effects in particelfont.tga resemble them somewhat, thanks for the tip anyways :)
the sprites are spr files, i just searched for tga and lmp files in the windows explorer. they're in the progs folder, somehow managed to miss them since i didn't scroll for enough to get past the mdl files.
#254 posted by damage_inc on 2017/08/17 01:19:27
I've never looked at those, what do you use to view .spr files?
Disregard #254
#255 posted by d3vious.g3nius on 2017/08/17 01:23:36
I found it(Fimg).
Update?
#256 posted by Lo Frag Traff on 2017/08/27 22:57:07
i can't find anything to do with this aughust update anywhere.
is there an updated link?
A Decent Youtube Video For This Mod
#257 posted by Lo Frag Traff on 2017/09/02 15:24:27
yellowswift3 has made a really good video for this mod.
he's quite thorough, and he does s good job showing how to install it for newcomers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHUL6v3fbZs
Second Attempt (secrets)
#258 posted by Lo Frag Traff on 2017/09/04 21:45:14
ok, boglord area.
i can see a top area that is locked off.
apparently this is accessible by finding a 'button'.
the only button that i have found is the one where it says "it's a trap!"
someone must know, as i have definitelyu put some time in into figuring this out, but i'm tapped out :(
anyone?
What About That Non-working Button In The Boglord Room?
#259 posted by Barnak on 2017/09/05 01:02:56
Once you free and frag the Boglord, there's a semi-hidden button on a wall inside the Boglord small prison (above the door). Shooting it gives a weird message, sawing that the button is "broken" in some way.
What is that button ?
At Some Point
#260 posted by Qmaster on 2017/09/05 05:28:25
Hopefully sock will answer some questions about lich fiend, broken? buttons, what killing the spawns does and the like.
Broken Button
#261 posted by mh on 2017/09/05 08:13:10
IIRC, and despite the message, if you exit the prison room immediately after shooting the button you'll see huge sections of the main room walls moving about. You can now jump/climb on the walls, walk along ledges, and access all of the upper areas.
Mh
#262 posted by Barnak on 2017/09/05 12:33:06
Before freeing the Boglord from his prison, I can already jump/climb all the walls up to the top (well, most of it). I'm not sure the "broken" button is related to that but I'll check again.
This map is so great, I could play and replay it dozens of times without beeing bored. I think Forgotten Sepulcher is THE best map ever created for a game. I can't see how a future map could be better than this one. I only need a pet to follow me in my exploration, to feel less lonely in a Quake map (after most monsters have been squashed).
Ah..
#263 posted by Lo Frag Traff on 2017/09/05 19:18:34
so there is a button in the boglord prison?
i definitely didn't notice that before, and, i must admit, i've been trying to get right to the top parts before releasing him.
some parts you can get to the top already, but there are two(?) areas where i cannot (at the present point) get to.
anyways, i'm off to merc this wack ass green sod then find that button!
p.s:-how do you embed screenshots?
AFAIK
#264 posted by Mugwump on 2017/09/05 19:44:59
There's no embedding on Func_. You just post the URL.
@ Mugwump [it Appears There Is]
#265 posted by Lo Frag Traff on 2017/09/05 21:01:08
unless i'm terribly mistaken.
here:
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61494&start=248
Pulsar's first post shows embedding (screenshot etc.).
it's not the end of the world, as i could just use some image hosting site, but i like to know stuff.
Apologies For The Off-topic-ness!
#266 posted by Lo Frag Traff on 2017/09/05 21:05:00
I Only See [hotlinks In Brackets],
#267 posted by Mugwump on 2017/09/05 21:34:49
not embedded screens. I'm on my phone though, so maybe there's that... Anyway, Func_ uses html tags, look it up. And remember to use the preview button before posting in case you misused the tags.
I See..
#268 posted by Lo Frag Traff on 2017/09/05 22:04:19
i'll have a alook at that later.
cheers!
@ Barnak [that Button Sorts EVERYTHING Out!]
#269 posted by Lo Frag Traff on 2017/09/05 22:05:47
can't believe i missed that on my first run, as it isn't really that hard to see.
after that, it all fell into place :)
Broken Button Not Broken
#270 posted by Barnak on 2017/09/05 22:23:44
apparently, it only opens the hole with bars near the ceiling.
Yeah, But..
#271 posted by Lo Frag Traff on 2017/09/05 23:51:50
it also allows considerably easier access to the other wall with the other secrets right at the top (that were not obtainable previously).
damn!
i wanna see if i can get all 50 :)
anyone else managed it yet?
haven't heard from anyone if they have yet :(
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