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you might find it surprising, but for a quake fan, i really like storylines in games.
Unreal, Morrowind, SystemShock1/2, RTCW, etc... fuck, i even come up with storys for my maps! unless the gameplay is so amazingly good, (ie: doom, quake) that it doesn't matter... but that's pretty rare in this day and age. that's cool - as long as you don't write a short novel in your readme and expect me to plough through it before launching the map. One of the reasons HL succeeded was it told its story entirely within the maps - Quake should be the same. Custom map stories have the potential to be some of the worst fan-fiction ever - especially given the fact that they have to be suffered in cornea-scouring
Use of brief scene-setting pieces of flavour text to establish a maps narrative premise is cool - War And Peace via notepad is not. Essentially, if the story's worth telling, tell it with the *map*. doom had storyline and quake too !
havent u read the intermission texts. ok it was minimal storyline . but the text like `u are the last human left on earth` really got me And thumbs up for hl2, I was just wondering were the heck was it, and here u go - valve announced it. Notice the mean aliens. dude that is like a week old news, I already posted pics for it like AGES ago :)
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/ryanw/HL2/ Lucky that Daz posted some DIFFERENT pictures then, isn`t it mister gulati?? (Apart from the fire one but that`s much clearer...).
Thoughts, thoughts.
1. It`s cool that they`ve kept it under wraps until now. 2. It`s also cool for mild entertaiment that they`ll be going head2head with D3. 3. The engine looks cool from those shots. 4. The settings look....ummmm kinda cool. They look interesting, like, WTF is going on, storywise. But not so much my style. 5. That tripod looks damn cool, the rest remind me a lot of, ummm, HL tho. 6. As for how the game appeals to me, well HL was cool if overrated but there`s plenty more games I prefer. I suspect they will do a good job and it will be a very good HLy game. Whether it will drown in the torrent of hype or not....is another matter. But for myself I am so behind on games that it`s not so high on my list of interests. The monsters were neat and inventive, and even scary. The story was cool, though I never figured it out totally.
We at inside3d have a few people that post their mod ideas in the form of a 3-5 page opening story. Not bad guys, but I rarely read any further than the title, and then skip down to the meat of what the mod will actually be like. Quake is an old-skool game. It`s the brainchild of one of the oldest game styles out there - progress from level to level while running around shooting monsters that are hell-bent on killing all of mankind for some obscure reason. Quake survived because it does this well. However, such a system might not cut it in newer games, against the newest competitive edge that centers around story. I notice that the new Jak and Daxter (Jak2) is changing focus. It`s abandoning the old, now overused system of sparce storyline just do things because we say so, and is instead ingraining a very intense and engaging storyline that will be with you through the entire game to keep you going. Every obstacle and quest has a specific reason to be there. I`m looking forward to it very much. I loved the original Jak and Daxter. Despite the fact that the new one is taking a different path, it looks like it`s on the right track. Im purty sure its gonna be a good game. Valve is one of the few companies I have complete confidence in, theyre one of those guys that always seem to step up to the plate and deliver.
see also; the Nintendo effect. And if I have to choose between doom3 and hl2... I would go for HL2. ...was developed by amateurs, valve just bought it.
Also it seems to suffer from the same problem that ID, they cant make a game that has a different approach. Well, at least they make a game instead of a engine with some content added to it. Ah, the old anti-id saw.
id makes some of the best games around because they`re fun and suitably bizarre. Possibly listened to the naysayers too much with Q2 though. Nice engines too, unfortunately I have yet to enjoy any other games made with the engines except Half-Life. My old PC was a bit sluggish on Q3A but impossible for any of the other games made with the engine. Stop with the HL2 pics and finish TNJ/DaZSP4/DaZSP5!
Agreed. RPG speaks great wisdom here. I think i am falling in love with RPG. !!?!! Maybe this will help with your misplaced love for me (not work safe):
http://rpg.quakepit.com/images/misc/cardorpg2.jpg does that matter somehow?
without valve they would never have been released. and they are good releases. Well yes it does matter, wrath, because you included them as games that Valve had made, sorry delivered on, when they hadn't.
However, HL was excellent and I, for one, am really looking forward to HL2. if you think that valve did not have anything to do with the production of them the drunk is on you.
there is no way in snowy hell that valve would risk releasing bad stuff on the HL brand, no way. Sure, other studios might have produced content - but valve called the shots. I am positive of that. you are arguing semantics. fact of the matter: valve delivers. just take wrath`s point. valve have capitalized really well on a product and managed to make so much out of it. ok so other developers did the work for the sequels. true.
valve: the delivery company. We deliver! you play our games! or you die! what i wanna know is what`s up with team fortress 2? will it be out after duke? i`d like comments on 3drealms. will they deliver?
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