Yes I'm aware there are better guides out there than that waffly 35 minute video 

On Win7, happy with that, hate any OS that is visually based around apps/touchscreen BS, but might have to get Win10 with new pc. 

they fixed that in win10, u can set it up for proper desktop usage without that metro interface (it's actually old way by default). you can also disable all those squares from start menu. so in the end it feels like win 7 no prob. 

Only install Windows 10 if you're okay with handing total control of your PC over to Microsoft. And yes, it's basically spyware and there's no way to turn that completely off.

It doesn't seem to be going over all that well but Microsoft continues trying various sneaky methods to sucker people into installing it. 

Buying a laptop (still on this), I can get it with Win7. At an extra �80. So, errr. 

win7 will pester you with free upgrade to win10 every day, be prepared.

though:

The free upgrade is a full version of Windows (not a trial or introductory version) and is available until July 29, 2016. Once you upgrade, you�ll have Windows 10 for free on that device. 

Personally I'd just get win 10 and turn the spying options off. 

Windows 10 is now a "recommended" update in Windows Update, so Windows 7 with default settings will eventually install Windows 10 on it's own without asking. 

So that why the bastards sneaked it onto my computer without my permission. 

What? Microsoft being deceptive? Surely not.

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/67367/upgradegate-microsofts-upgrade-deceptions-undermining-windows-10 

That's why 10 is now sitting on my laptop without my permission. 

 

They install spyware on your computer, without your consent. Surely the EU are gonna do a number on them again. 

Xcode is good. Xcode is your friend. Accept the Xcode. Let it flow through you.
They screw around devs every frigging cycle.
No root file access in El Capitan. FMD.
(Cue apple (or Gnome) fanboys reciting - oh but it's good. You never wanted it anyway)
So i can't link /usr/include/X11 to whereever it is in the Xcode heirarchy


I've found the workaround... but they've also broken the TCL APIs... Anyway. "make" works now.... Getting there :) 

I was JUST reading an article on this BS.

If your already stuck with windows 10 you can at least turn down the spying a bit with Spybot's Anti-beacon

And to stop the auto update to 10 before it happens you can use Steve Gibson's free Never 10 program. 

June 10:

Visual Studio 2015 C++ Compiler Secretly Inserts Telemetry Code Into Binaries

Disturbing. 

I just realized I haven't had a Windows Update since March. Bloody 10 must've broken Windows Update somewhere along the line. Touche to Microsoft. Now to fix this mess. 

Cheers for that Baker.

Does anyone know if the new list of compatible macs is arbitary, or hardware related ? 

On the fence about upgrading. The main two things putting me off upgrading now whilst it's free are the fact that you lose control of your update schedule, and Microsoft's awful behaviour about pushing people to Windows 10. If they are pushing people into upgrading their entire OS now, what's it going to be like in a year or two when you are on Windows 10 and have no control over updates.

Oh yeah, and all the spying shit, ads in the start menu etc. Although people keep telling me you can turn it off... you can now, but for how long? You've lost control of your updates, so who knows what MS are going to push down your pipe.

Oh, and I have a laptop running Linux Mint 17.3 It's a shame so much software I use doesn't run on Linux, because it's a very nice OS, and doesn't really have any annoying things about it. I've had very few issues with incompatibilities and drivers are often better than on Windows. Getting a PS4 pad working on Linux is as simple as plugging it in or pairing over bluetooth. Other stuff tends to just work too. There are a few things where I needed to install stuff from the Linux Mint software repo (for example, high capacity SD card drivers), but this is pretty easy. 

I was running straight up Linux the last 5 years or so until my son started gaming more and my wife not good with OS changes upgraded to Win 10 with some other relatives recently.

Ended up throwing win 10 on a partition to help troubleshoot anyone's future windows issues and gaming with my son for any game I couldn't bend to Linux's will. I also have a Virtualbox install of Windows 7 for the odd situation.

So far I really haven't used 10 an awful amount, but it's not much different than 8 for the most part. Any Windows issue was easy to fix or a Google search away. Most games I play on average either have Linux ports or run in WINE. Being a amature photographer I found and use open source programs for my photography with no hindrances or issues to speak of.

I did throw the free Avast antivirus on win 10 and disabled Cortana and any other telemetry spying in the background with available freeware apps. Like you said it only takes one forced Windows update to re-enable that, but the average user doesn't care. 

Avast

Congrats, you significantly lowered the security of your system: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-6567/Avast.html 

Thanks for link. I don't use Windows all that often and I've never had an issue in the 6 years using Avast, but doesn't mean I won't change Antivirus programs after looking at that data. 

I find it really weird how smoothly this forced Windows 10 update shit is going down...

Really, like reality has been distorted, people are getting reeaaaaly mushy in the head or what ? I have a strong feeling had they tried this in early 2000's MS would of been ripped to fucking shreds for trying shit like this.


MS are desperate to get Win10 on as many PC's as they can, the reason is what they want to do is offload most of the OS to their cloud basically.
Hence Azure and other linux/cloud to windows interfacing projects they are deep into right now.

No need to collect data about its users for monetisation with "spyware" anymore if half of the OS is running on their own servers.

Its the usual craze about amassing user data and turning it into cash through advertising etc, a la Google / Facebook etc. Its a bit crazy of them, they are banking on this whole revenue through data collection/ads not being a massive bubble, which it could well be.


Win7 is lovely as it is thanks. There are ways to turn the update to win10 nagging off by the way.

If you get Win10 with your new machine grab yourself a "free" downgrade to Win7 online and format that shit away. 

I agree, things are getting ridiculous. The crap people accept these days would have had our not too distant ancestors up in arms. 

The Windows 10 Enterprise edition -- supposedly it doesn't have telemetry (or it can be permanently disabled easily) or ads.

You can buy Windows 8 Enterprise for $199 and I assume it upgrades to Windows 10 Enterprise:

http://fpwabwaotjigipcc.premiumsoftstore.com/product/microsoft-windows-8-1-enterprise-64-bit/