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GOOD MORNING MFX HOW IS YOUR HEAD 
 
This Is All You Need To Know About Windows 10 
Well 
It was the case with Windows 8 already and it's completely optional, but. 
Surprisingly Well Spirit 
surprisingly well.. 
Seriously 
https://imgur.com/iHge6RJ

Is that for real?

If it is, Windows 10 will never get installed on anything I own. 
 
wasn't that for the test version? 
Win10 Home Version 
Solitaire has adverts unless you pay the subscription.

Win10 updates are mandatory with currently no way to opt out. 
Wow. If That Is In Any Way Realistic... 
I guess we shouldn't be surprised in an age where every other gigantic, evil institution is partway through a massive power-grab (ahem, US government surveillance). Kind of infuriating though. But fuck consumers anyway, I mean, they're only 99% of the population...

Does anyone here actually believe tech billionaires are going to save the world, or does neo-feudalism seem more likely? 
Well 
 
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx

Some parts more scary than others.
Especially when taken out of context.
Which is what lawyers love doing.
Especially government ones.

Much of the problem is that their eulas etc all include cloud services along with local software. For cloud services much of that stuff is understandable, but definitely is not when its local software. The other part of the problem is that the parts that should be local software are still not local.

If you do install it, be sure to disable everything. And then google to find all the other 'options' that you missed...

And yes, the windows update thing allows them to install adware or whatever the hell they want later - they'll probably wait a year, at least...

Personally I'm gonna wait a while. the d3d12 renderer can wait. 
Daz 
that is incredible, actual laughs out loud. For real. IRL 
Windows 10. What. The. Fuck. 
My main fear is that the mainstream are culpable enough to buy into it. 
 
Of course they will, look at how happy everyone is using Steam. 
I'm Happy With Steam 
 
So... 
What's the problem with steam? 
 
I use Steam but I don't really like it. Too much unnecessary overhead. It reminds me of spyware in some ways. I only start it if I have to, if shopping for games I just go to their web page. 
 
everyone I know that plays games loves steam. some will admit that it is DRM but still forgive it because of things like steam sales. it makes me sad. 
 
Steam is one of the reasons why PC Gaming is still relevant. 
Steam 
used to suck a big bag of donkey dicks. But it's a much better service than it used to be.

I actually prefer the steam model over the console model, pricing, availability and backwards compatibility. 
 
Yeah, Steam Sales definitely make up for a lot. I've played half a dozen or more games which turned out to be excellent that I wouldn't have bought at regular price.

On the other hand, I got suckered in by Alien Isolation. 
 
right, and i didn't make this point explicitly in my post, but the problem with steam is that it is not clearly evil. just slightly not evil enough to turn most people away from it. this is what makes it evil ironically, because it's a slow and gradual acclimatization to DRM. 
 
thank you 
 
I don't think it's a far cry to say that PC gaming still exists because of Steam. 
 
Haven't used it much or recently but some things: Ads in your face at every launch, demos do not exist anymore, everyone is ok with asking valve if they may play something or at least telling valve they are playing and how long, some shitty company knows about all the games you have, for many games there is DRM, 
Have You Guys Ever Heard Of GOG? 
 
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