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I thought a trio of themed threads about other entertainment media might be good. If you're not interested, please just ignore the thread and pick some threads that interest you from here: http://celephais.net/board/view_all_threads.php

Anyway, discuss films...
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Yay 
I just watched Wayne's World and that was great fun. 
Nitin 
nitin u should do a favourite movies list. i got one. 
Kona 
it'd be too long :)

But if you have time to waste, you can sift through here for the 4.5-5 starrers IMHO.

http://nitin.dvdaf.com 
 
ok i've gone through it all and got a few dozen to get. you certainly like your film noir, don't you nitin? 
Favorite Genre :) 
 
Nitin 
I work in cd/dvd retail shop atm, but i almost don't know films. Can you point me at any good films i should watch? Both old and new ones 
Pulsar 
if you could name me 10-15 of your favorite movies or just movies you like, sure. 
 
Has anyone seen "Inside" or "Martyrs"? 
Nitin 
Well, i like sci-fi, horror, historical and unusual films 
Pulsar 
that's a pretty broad range but try these if you havent already seen them :

12 Monkeys
28 Weeks Later
Apocalypse Now
Apocalypto
Being John Malkovich
Blue Velvet
Brazil
Children of Men
Dark City
The Descent
Donnie Darko
Downfall
The Fly
From Hell
High Tension
Lost Highway
Memento
Oldboy
Pan's Labyrinth
The Prestige
The Thing
Wolf Creek

Most of those are fairly recentish (ie last 10 years or so) and I'm assuming you've already seen Alien, Aliens and Blade Runner :) 
Hrm 
How To Lose Friends And Alienate People (2008)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0455538/
Pretty bland. Stupid american humor. Simon Pegg suits intelligent nerdy humor much better. Bad character building, very bad. Kirsten Dunst is hot.
Thumbs down. 
Woah 
Kirsten Dunst is hot.

Snags, hot?

http://www.wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=2115

I suppose in a witch broiling children sort of way. 
Nitin 
I think you've hit the nail on the head there.

Pan's Labyrinth is a superb film. The world needs more films like that.

I still need to see The Prestige. The book is excellent like much of Christopher Priest's work.

Ones I liked that may fit with Pulsar's tastes:

Jacob's Ladder
Delicatessan
I Robot
Minority Report
Spirited Away (okay this may not fit but it is brilliant)
No Country For Old Men

ummm there may be more but I am senile. 
Havent Read The Book 
but the film version of The Prestige is excellent, although some people have complained that it (unsurprisingly) simplifies the book's plot quite a bit.

I thought about including No Country, but didnt think it fitted what pulsar was after. But its a great film, so yeah probably should have :) 
 
More for puslar, trying not to duplicate what's already been suggested:

2001
Audition
Dead Alive
The Great Escape
Hellraiser
Hotel Rwanda
Koyaanisqatsi
Man Bites Dog
Patton
Pitch Black
The Shining
THX 1138

Sorry this list is so short, I had to cull a lot of the movies i like because they were thrillers, martial arts films, cop/crime movies, westerns, samurai films, etc, which didn't really fit your categories. 
Hotel Rwanda 
If you have to see a movie about the genocide in Rwanda, watch this instead:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0400063/ 
With Sleepy There 
one of them is extremely powerful, the other one is pretty bland (despite some good acting). 
Have You Guys Ever Seen 
"missing" with Tommy Lee Jones....

its a western. with indian folklore and stuff. 
Yep 
above average I thought. 
Film 
Burn After Reading

Pretty good but could have been better. Indeed could have been a real classic of the genre whatever that genre is. The plot and escalating mess born out of small actions and simple mistakes is excellent and could have set the scene for a film full of gasps and laughs. However for a film relying equally on the behaviour of it's protagonists, many of the characters were weak and simply not distinctive enough nor smartly played enough to do it justice. Tilda Swinton and John Malkovitch were spot on, as was the laconic CIA "boss", but the rest never seemed to capture what they were intending to. Thus making it somewhat leaden until the plot got going and things started to get spicey enough to bring back some interest. 
Shambler 
same thoughts actually. I thought most the performances were fine, but the writing lacked bit far too often.

Burn After Reading (2008) - cant say I am all that disappointed as it turned out pretty much as I expected, a featherweight, inconsequential and occasionally funny film by the Coens where the chief concern seemed to have been to make sure everyone involved was having fun. There are a couple of genuinely hilarious scenes but, personally, I find this to be on the same level as their more unfairly mauled Intolerable Cruelty.

6.5/10


Snow Angels (2007) - bleak look at small town America from David Gordon Green that reaches some great heights at times but also comes down from there just as quickly to mediocrity far too often. The performances are strong throughout, even the usually inert Kate Beckinsale, but the film peaks about halfway through and then just peters out predictably despite plenty of scope to explore some more interesting territory.

6.5/10


Woman in the Dunes (1964) - Akira Kurosawa's The Seven Samurai has finally been toppled as my favorite Japanese film by this corker from Hiroshi Teshigahara. A plot summary will not do it justice, as most of the greatness lies in the character exploration, the setting of the mood and the absolutely amazing technical mastery. But, generally, the movie is about an entomologist who gets stranded in the sand dunes and decides to seek shelter in the nearby villages and is given shelter by a young woman who lives alone.

What follows is a mesmerising combination of a surrealistic nightmare and the harsh realities and oppressiveness of life in a sand pit, mixed with a good deal of existentialism, escape drama and carnal attraction. An extremely accomplished and very memorable piece of filmmaking.

9/10


Superman (1978) - hadnt seen it in its entirety before and now that I have, I cant say its all that much better than the unfairly maligned Superman Returns. Sure, the acting is better by Christopher Reeves, Gene Hackman and Margot Kidder but despite the long running time and admirable attempt to make a mythic epic, the characterisations of clark kent and lois lane are still pretty one dimensional. That said, it's a whole lot of fun which even a rather silly ending cant ruin.

7/10


Mr Smith Goes to Washington (1939) - I'm really beginning to warm to Capra and this is definitely one of his best. What should have been a really sentimental, over patriotic and hokey film instead comes across as genuinely charming and inspirational thanks to the performances and Capra's infusion of humour at appropriate stages. But what really makes it work is Claude Rains, an extremely underrated actor, who turns a rather difficult role into the most sympathetic character in the film.

8/10


The Shop Around the Corner (1940) - cant say there is anything really wrong with this Lubitsch comedy/drama but it just felt inconsequential. It is more of drama than a comedy (which is not what I was expecting) and whilst it works in that regard, its not exactly anything memorable in the dramatic department. Still, well made, lightweight fluff.

6/10


Lolita (1962) - not sure how exactly it was intended by Kubrick but it definitely works as a black comedy. There is some attempt at drama but the movie is just far too detached from its characters for it to make any emotional impact and also undermines many of its dramatic moments with too many sly jokes. That's not necessarily too detrimental because a lot of them are quite funny, particularly whenever Peter Sellers is involved, but anyone expecting anything serious and substantial from this will be heavily disappointed.

6.5/10


The Dead (1987) - the final film from John Huston and it's a great movie to end a great career. Adapted from James Joyce' short story, the movie is primarily a period piece set at a dinner in early twentieth century Dublin where the conversations and mood evoke different feelings in the various attendees. Huston's spare and focused style makes for a very interesting contrast to someone like Robert Altman who had a very distinct method of capturing multiple characters and conversation in an overlapping fashion. Huston's method works exceedingly well here, although he is ably helped by excellent performances and also Joyce's wonderful use of words. The last 20 minutes or so are pretty much perfect.

8/10 
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Quantum of Solace

More like Quantum of BALLace, am I rite?
Wait wait, this has just come to me, the next Wallace and Gromit film better be called Quantum of Wallace. That would rock my world. This film didn't. First time I've ever seen a film and been bored during 1 a boat chase, 2 a plane chase, 3 a car chase and 4 an explosion. That's right, during this film I actually got bored DURING an explosion. 
Mad Men 
about 3 eps in so far, but hands down the best thing on tv for me at the moment. 
 
The Small Back Room (1949) - interesting little film from Powell and Pressburger that is a WWII based film on the surface as it looks at the 'back room boys' who conducted military research into weapons and bombs, but is really a character drama through and through with David Farrar playing an embittered, self-loathing man who is constantly battling his own self doubts and his addiction to alcohol. The character driven parts of the film are far more successful than that part of the story focused on the investigation into mysterious booby trapped bombs dropped by the germans into England.

6.5/10


Sansho the Bailiff (1954) - another film from Kenji Mizoguchi that I like but dont really get what all the fuss is about. Sure, its well made, brilliantly shot and features an involving story but I dont quite agree that its the classic that it is widely held to be. Its message is hammered home and there's a sense of inertness about the whole thing that keeps you at a distance from all the suffering piled on to the characters. Still, this is quite an effective piece of filmmaking about a family torn apart in feudal Japan but who remain unbroken in spirit till the very end. The attention to detail is first rate as are some of the restrained scenes of off screen violence which transcend the rest of the film in their ability to make the viewer feel.

7/10


Panic in the Streets (1950) - one of the many great things about film noir is that, during its heyday, almost every director made one, resulting in a genre full of films with many different individual styles. This one was made by Elia Kazan and shares many of the strengths that he displayed in his later On the Waterfront. A terrific, tense thriller rife with great camerawork, excellent characterisations and visceral direction that paces everything to perfection.

7.5/10


Harvey (1950) - likeable farcical comedy, although some of the characters can get a bit annoying at times, with James Stewart playing an alcoholic who has a 6 ft 3 best friend that is a giant rabbit called Harvey (ie the movie Donnie Darko took some inspiration from). Of course everyone around him puts it down to his alcoholism and, to a lesser extent, childhood trauma leading to some pretty cleverly executed set pieces that are quite funny. Doesnt quite manage to maintain its zany momentum all the way through, but, paraphrasing the movie, it's pleasant if not smart.

6.5-7/10


Letter from an Unknown Woman (1948) - pretty average melodrama from Max Ophuls starring Joan Fontaine (in an extension of her Rebecca and Jane Eyre roles) as an extremely na�ve young woman besotted by not so na�ve musician in Vienna.

Apart from some nice camerawork, it just didn�t work for me. The characterisation and actions of Fontaine's character were just a bit too hard to believe and so was the very convenient redemption character arc for the musician character at the end.

5.5/10


Transsiberian (2008) - The term 'hitchcockian' is thrown around a bit too much these days but Brad Anderson definitely knows what it means. He demonstrated that in The Machinist and he demonstrates it here again in an entertaining train story involving an unsuspecting couple on an adventurous train trip from Beijing to Moscow.

The second half plotting leaves a bit to be desired and the pacing is also a bit uneven (the first half an hour of the movie is pure characterisation which would generally be welcome but not when it is at the complete expense of any forward momentum). But offsetting those flaws is Anderson's real grip on suspense and atmosphere and strong performances from Emily Mortimer, Woody Harrelson and Ben Kingsley.

6.5/10


The Mark of Zorro (1940) - not a great film by any means but definitely more entertaining than the Banderas & Zeta Jones version. Tyrone Power is much more charming in the Zorro role than Banderas' annoying turn and this version is also paced heaps better than the remake. There's too many one dimensional characters though for it to be anything more than just pleasant entertainment.

6/10 
And Some More 
Blazing Saddles (1974) - Apart from the original The Producers, I don�t find Mel Brooks' stuff funny. It might be the odd mixture of the clever and the crude but it generally never quite works for me at all. And this is the same, I could admire some of the joke setups but that's about it.

4.5/10


Young Frankenstein (1974) - this one is even cleverer than Blazing Saddles at times but once again I just didn�t find it funny.

4.5/10


Funny Games (2008) - Michael Haneke's original version of this was a good, if flawed, film. This remake has been criticised quite a lot for being an unnecessary shot for shot update but I don�t think that's the main problem with it.

The main problem is that the dialogue and characterisations which came across as very natural and realistic in the original simply don�t have the same effect when transplanted into an American setting (despite the best efforts of Tim Roth, Naomi Watts and Michael Pitt in the acting department). Consequently, the realistic tone and that the original movie relied so heavily on for effect is lacking and is replaced by a stilted and forced one which renders the whole experience quite perplexing.

3/10


The Fire Within (1963) - Louis Malle's bleak film about an ex-alcoholic who becomes disconnected with the world during the detox process and struggles to reconnect once 'cured'. Despite its one-note bleakness, it manages to involve the audience to a great degree and evoke sympathy for its main character through a combination of excellent acting and some very tightly controlled direction which is able to place you in the head of the main character during crucial parts of the film.

7-7.5/10


Dog Soldiers (2003) - An earlier, more low budget effort from Neil Marshall, who made the great The Descent, and although it is a reasonably effective B horror movie about werewolves in the Scottish highlands, the lack of budget is clearly constraining on the material which resorts to quick edits and darkness obscured shots too often to cover it up. Otherwise, it�s a pretty nifty little movie with some nice humour.

5.5-6/10


Double Suicide (1969) - just when you think you've seen it all, something like this comes along. Absolutely bizarre japanese film shot in the manner of a puppet show but with live actors replacing the puppets. Everything else though is as it would be in a puppetshow (eg sets utilising a lot of paper/cardboard and 'invisible' puppetmasters assisting with rearranging of props mid scene to set up the next one). It's an interesting technique especially when combined with the unique cinematography but its also very very distracting, so much so that I was completely disconnected with the story and the characters.

5/10


Sisters (1973) - is Brian DePalma the most frustrating director ever? Here's yet another movie that's pretty well made and with some very impressive sequences but once again is let down by a very substandard script (that de palma wrote). Worth watching for the first 2/3 and although the last 1/3 isnt terrible its very very disappointing in its execution.

5.5/10


The Best Years of Our Lives (1946) - probably William Wyler's best film that I have seen. Everyone involved seems to be aware of the strength of the material and so no one really tries to overplay any aspect of it which works in the movie's favour because it ends up being earnest without appearing to do so and affecting without resorting to oversentimentality. And despite being a 3 hr film, I think the script is a good example of a lean and direct screenplay that does not contain any padding or unnecessary scenes. Its also masterfully short by Greg Tolland with some great use of deep focus is key scenes.

8/10


Get Smart Season 1 - I used to really like it as a kid and although it's not quite as funny now its still surprisingly funnier than I thought it would be. Some of the spy satire stuff is hilarious.

Its also interesting watching something like this, which was obviously not intended to be watched consecutively on dvd but only once a week, and seeing how repetitive it is. Completely different to how a lot of tv is now made.

6.5/10 
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