Moving Away From Pixel Art
#25578 posted by
primal on 2015/05/13 13:08:30
http://www.dinofarmgames.com/a-pixel-artist-renounces-pixel-art/
This article is about the author's reasons to move away from pixel art to modern high-def graphics. There are some interesting thoughts about game art with numerous examples.
The comments are worth reading too. The author doesn't mention the visual differences between old and modern display hardware, but someone brings this point up.
QExpo 2016 Event Idea
#25579 posted by
negke on 2015/05/13 14:24:07
Every singleplayer Quake map played in a continuous marathon-like live stream (by multiple people), excluding the speedmaps (which are reserved for Daz!!). For extra exposure/attention it could even feature donations for some charitable cause. Kind of like the SDA events. OR all played by Daz and the donations used for the then-necessary psychologist sessions - which, of course, would be live-streamed as well!
Don't Let The Ideas Die In Random Threads...
#25580 posted by
Spirit on 2015/05/13 15:28:23
Downsampling GIMP Vs Photoshop
#25582 posted by
RickyT33 on 2015/05/27 23:25:53
http://rickyt23.com/files/gimp-downsampling-looks-like-ass.html
Or am I missing something?
To me I get jaggies and artifacts from the fence on all images except image 5.
#25583 posted by
Spirit on 2015/05/28 11:20:08
Nice job picking the perfect ugly edge case for resampling. Patterns like that are hard to downsample. I guess PS detects them and blurs before resampling.
What
#25584 posted by
bal on 2015/05/28 12:46:01
Aren't "Sinc" and bicubic supposed to be the same thing? Guess Photoshop has some funky stuff going on in addition to the regular bicubic resampling to get better results.
Think Of It Like Anti Aliasing
#25585 posted by
RickyT33 on 2015/05/28 23:51:46
Photoshop does it correctly.
GIMP does it incorrectly.
My understanding is that if you reduced the size of an image like that by a factor of 4 then 16 pixels will become 1 pixel. The colour of that pixel *should* be dictated by the median colour of all 16.
What I see happening in GIMP is that this does not happen. What I see happening in Photoshop is that this does actually happen.
I mean....
Well here is the original image anyway:
http://wilmingtonfencecontractors.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/aluminum_fence_4.jpg
#25586 posted by
Spirit on 2015/05/29 00:27:26
Well, give it a try. Write that algorithm you described and see what happens. ;)
Lol
#25587 posted by
RickyT33 on 2015/05/29 00:44:29
Well I have oversimplified bicubic downsampling algorithm, there is another factor to the equation regarding the pixels furthest from the centre having less providence.
But you are also missing something. I mean look at the tree in the background. Everyone looks at the fence, but look at the tree!
I Agree Ricky
#25588 posted by
ericw on 2015/05/29 00:44:49
the gimp results are bad. Gimp also has trouble with test patterns like this:
http://www.komar.org/faq/camera/auto-focus-test/micro-auto-focus-test-2.gif
I don't have photoshop, but Mac OS X's Preview app can resize that down with no artifacts appearing.
I do love free software and all, and on the bright side, someone motivated can fix it and send in a patch :-/
ImageMagick Result
#25590 posted by Primal (not logged in) on 2015/05/29 09:40:15
I downloaded the original image and ran a resize operation with the convert tool from ImageMagick. This was the command line:
convert aluminum_fence_4.jpg -resize 300x225 fenceout.jpg
And this is the result:
http://i.imgur.com/wJXnSD3.jpg
It looks similar to the good result from Photoshop to me. Thus, I don't think there are any fancy content-aware algorithms at work here.
I'd recommend adding ImageMagick to your toolbox.
http://imagemagick.com/script/index.php
Good Call On Imagemagick
#25591 posted by
ericw on 2015/05/29 10:16:35
playing with it a bit, found
this guide which recommends the following:
convert ~/Downloads/aluminum_fence_4.jpg -colorspace RGB -resize 300x225 -colorspace sRGB fenceout.png
result. This is better than photoshop I think? Note the left side of the fence doesn't go to a black blur as much.
#25592 posted by
Spirit on 2015/05/29 10:29:32
Hm, I thought moire artifacts were normal to expect from resampling if you did not add blurring beforehand.
Checkout graphicsmagick, there rarely is a reason to prefer imagemagick to it. It is much faster and stable.
#25593 posted by
Spirit on 2015/05/29 10:33:17
I had no idea IM had liquid rescaling though, that looks fun
http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/resize/animate_lqr.gif
Ericw
#25594 posted by
RickyT33 on 2015/05/29 12:11:55
That's interesting.
I haven't experimented with Photoshop's other re sampling algorithms. There is also 'Bicubic Sharper' for down-scaling images.
But yes - these is a difference with the images - Photoshop seems to be as smooth as I.M. but it makes the fence uprights and the branches of the tree look thicker than I.M. weird eh?!
For The SVG
#25595 posted by Primal (still not logged in) on 2015/05/29 12:44:04
I chose ImageMagick in favor of GraphicsMagick a few years ago because IM had better support than GM for certain SVG features at the time. However, since they are invoked with different commands, you can easily install both on your system, and use whatever works best. Good call, Spirit.
#25596 posted by
JneeraZ on 2015/05/29 15:45:21
"I chose ImageMagick in favor of GraphicsMagick a few years ago because IM had better support than GM for certain SVG features at the time. However, since they are invoked with different commands, you can easily install both on your system, and use whatever works best."
Or, you know, use Photoshop. :P
Well...
#25597 posted by
bal on 2015/05/29 15:47:10
Photoshop is a bit expensive. :)
#25598 posted by
JneeraZ on 2015/05/29 15:53:22
$10 a month if you take the cheapest subscription. But yeah, it's not free.
Well
#25599 posted by
bal on 2015/05/29 19:43:56
More like $120 for a yearly subscription, you can't get $10 for just one month for instance. It's still pretty expensive for any kind of casual use in my opinion, there are lots of good apps you can just buy for less than $120.
I wouldn't pay $10 to resize an image anyways. ;)
#25600 posted by
JneeraZ on 2015/05/29 19:50:28
Did they change it? Are you locked in for a year now or something? Lame...
I Think The Full Suite Costs
#25601 posted by
RickyT33 on 2015/05/29 20:50:11
around �400 per year!