Sure, sure. I know. I was just venting because the idea of it really appealed to me and then the FIRST THING that happened upon spawning into the map is a jockey jumped on my head. Kind of soured my experience... 

Willem you're not alone, I think the mode is pretty fail too. Had they added some mechanism to escape it would have been better, but the game is centered around coop, and taking that out leaves a hollow experience. 

is fucking shit.

Valve took all the coop out of their coop game and still expected it to be fun?

Well, its not =) For all the reasons posted above really.

Now, it would have been better if they had removed all the special infected, and just had regular zombies, and perhaps taken away some health kits to balance it some.

Shooting regular zombies = more fun than shooting special infected.

Im waiting patiently for the chainsaw massacre mutation! 

I'm waiting for this mode :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-fDfxF1Oe8 

How it works is you throw them at the collision mesh and they build the AI area by averaging what is a walkable surface or not - no worrying about tears, holes or folded collision mesh.

Old technology applied in a new way.

For the LastMan mode the Jockey hanging onto you does have a gameplay effect, just not a very good one - whilst he's riding you around the level the other specials have time to get close enough to kill you when the Jockey lets go.

Tbh I wouldn't reccomend the mode if you're new to the game - you need to know the maps pretty well. Same as Vs really which can be very frustrating for newcomers. 

Looks great. But its apparently chainsaw massacre next. 

Cool, gore galore. Easy with human players (even tanks go down in no time), pretty hard with bots, because they act even stupider than usual. The melee-only mode undermines their AI - instead of following you no matter what, they often off for every single zombie they see and subsequently get in trouble, or just stand around for a special to incapacitate them... 

I preferred the last mode much more tbh - the chainsaw noise and its b0rky collision detection are annoying too.

I think with a couple more modifications this could have been great. Maybe remove all specials (including the witch) and x4 tanks and normal zombies.

Oh, and remove all medkits / pills and replace with adrenaline. 

 

You guys tried I Hate Mountains yet? If not you should, nice campaign.
http://www.ihatemountains.com/ 

Yeah, it's gorgeous. Some odd bugs like walking near the downed helicopter causes you to 'fall off' of it and hang there, stuck. But it was good. And very very pretty. 

Huge and extremely detailed maps, with multiple paths (the fourth map in particular is some sort of explorational wonderland). Easy to get lost during gauntlet events.
Excellent build quality, very professional. Sometimes it was slightly laggy, but for the most part the performance was fine.

I totally dig the attention to detail. There seems to be something unique in almost every room/area. Decals, mapobjects, survivor graffitis (a bit excessive in number maybe - French Bal references, too?!), and things like domo dolls hidden here and there.

Gameplay seemed okay, challenging on Normal. Lots of items scattered about, exploration is usually rewarded if items are needed. 

To download again. 

L4D2 for $10.20 today. 

Great-looking quality maps. Very large. Too hard though. Still worth a try. 

a bunch of those L4D2 custom campaigns. There's nothing quite like playing through a good zombie-infested area for the first time. 

Fucking ace. Best L4D2 campaign I've played. Better than the Valve ones. Just really top notch stuff. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhfAndzsCmI

Another great cinematic. I'm liking the way L4D/2 has it's own kinda culture and iconography now.

Sounds a great DLC - new campaign PLUS a L4D campaign ported to /2 

Classy.
I really hope there are 3 tanks at once during the final. :) 

You're by my side* in coop against them. Wed night I reckon...



* by "by my side" I mean, well in front of me getting up close and personal with the tanks, while I cower on top of a truck or something... 

 

Good stuff, short though, hard finale. Be sure to get Bal or Preach on your team.

However, I'm a tiny bit disappointed they just did a straight port to L4D2 - same with the No Mercy campaign. Kind of expected them at least to add a few L4D2 touches to the old maps (not just items and new special infected), and the new survivors. That as well as the fact they simply copied the finale map from The Passing makes it a bit of a lazy shot. 

I want my money back!!

I think we did okay on the finale on the last time. Be sure to get The Fence on your team :).

I don't mind the straight porting. I find a lot of L4D2 tweaks enhance the game anyway - new weapons, new items, melee, new specials....well apart from the fucking Jockeys AAAARRGGHH.

I like L4D/2, really quite a lot. 

I enjoyed it. The Vs mode is pretty good here. 

I'm still hoping for a proper Func_group Versus event some time. Getting eight players together is definitely possible without much trouble. It would certainly make for some fun rounds - less potential for annoyance as with strangers.