#25376 posted by
necros on 2015/03/23 02:13:45
DktE2 (eg: episode 2 daikatana textures, the white roman ones)
#25377 posted by
ericw on 2015/03/23 03:46:12
won't be the best quality, but if all else fails, just run the bad wad through
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61100 ?
Quake Stuff From /r/programming Subreddit
#25379 posted by primal (not logged in) on 2015/03/23 13:04:16
#25379
#25380 posted by
Kinn on 2015/03/23 13:15:09
Interesting but the smug tone of that article is annoying.
#25381 posted by
Lunaran on 2015/03/23 13:46:12
Man, quake is so old. Literally nobody knows how to run it any more!
Yeah
#25382 posted by
Kinn on 2015/03/23 13:49:58
and the quake file formats are just so obtuse and poorly documented!
#25384 posted by
JneeraZ on 2015/03/23 14:23:14
I think what people miss these days when dissecting Quake files is that the primary concern back then was size. Small size on the disk was of paramount importance. So that's why things are often 2 or 3 jumps away in various lookup pools and tables ... size.
Hey Look!
#25385 posted by
SleepwalkR on 2015/03/23 14:23:18
I went through all this trouble to use a modern raytracing engine, only to have the outcome look worse than a 17 year old software rasterizer.
#25386 posted by
JneeraZ on 2015/03/23 14:26:48
Heh, yeah, he could probably get most of this look through plugging a custom shader into DarkPlaces altho I guess that isn't the point.
#25387 posted by
- on 2015/03/23 21:38:24
That guy is a bit dishonest by taking the time to make put Quake formats through Raytracing and finding that easier than running Quake...
He could've searched on Steam, Johnny Law has a great <a href="http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=120426294
">guide</a> for setting things up that he could easily have read.
But I do think there is a bit of a usability problem for the general playing audience when the Steam release basically doesn't work out of the box and you have to resort to a damn guide to learn how to even play the game. Really sucks.
It'd be awesome if somehow we could have a workshop section for Quake on Steam, and it could include the latest engines (filesize limits might bite us there?) as well as we could stick maps and mods on there... there would be all the fucking ugly 'texture enhancements' there too but what are you going to do. Steam Workshop is basically that player facing front that we've all dreamed of since the earliest days of no one playing our fucking content... siigh.
#25388 posted by
- on 2015/03/23 21:39:12
#25389 posted by
JneeraZ on 2015/03/23 21:55:17
Scampie - That's not a bad idea. Where do workshops come from, does Valve have to birth them?
#25390 posted by
- on 2015/03/23 22:29:54
I believe the dev is responsible for requesting it and maintaining it... the second part being what would kill it since I would assume id doesn't want to spent time curating a 20 year old game instead of their active SKUs (Quakelive would get a workshop before Quake does).
Might also need to pay Valve for the privilege, since they host the content. Unsure on all the details.
#25391 posted by
- on 2015/03/23 22:34:10
There's also likely some Steamworks integration requirements there too... I think all games with workshops require that the game easily recognize the downloaded content, or at least have launchers that help players get to the content they downloaded.
Speaking Of Quake (and Doom) On Steam
#25392 posted by
primal on 2015/03/23 23:49:25
It sucks that Quake and Doom, and collections involving these games, are listed as Windows only on Steam. Because, as we know very well, you can use the data files from them on a Linux or Mac computer by providing your own engines for the games.
However, as I understand it, the Linux Steam client would helpfully prevent me from downloading them completely because they aren't listed as having Linux versions. I wish there were an easy way to work around this. If you pay for the games on Steam, you own the rights to use the data files and should be able to access them as simply as possible even from non-Windows setups.
But no, let's make things difficult by deciding no Linux or Mac user would possibly want to install and play these games
What am I to do if I want to recommend these classics to other Linux users? Suggest they pay for them on Steam and then use special means to obtain the data files from elsewhere on the Internet, because that is much less trouble? I mean, why would you have to install a Windows Steam client just to download these if you don't normally use the thing for anything?
System Shock 2 is available for Linux, and it is provided as the Windows executable that you then run under Wine. Wouldn't it be great if iD Software did the same, or if Steam allowed optional data-files-only downloads for games that have engine source ports?
Is there a petition I can sign? I'm pretty sure ranting here doesn't help, even though I'm sure everyone enjoys it greatly.
Ericw
#25393 posted by
necros on 2015/03/24 00:13:01
Thanks, that tool was fantastic!
Great Spamming
#25399 posted by
starbuck on 2015/03/25 09:38:28
we all know there are a lot of big louis vuitton bag fans here. Has this community ever even contained a single woman?
#25400 posted by
starbuck on 2015/03/25 09:42:33
badly worded, by single I meant "1 at least" not romantically open to options. As obviously it'd be hard to stay single for long with all these sexy mappers around