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Screenshot 4 is the best usage I've seen of that metal texture for those arches. Looks nice and oldschool.
I killed all the monsters in the last arena and now i don't know what to do :P
there's a message that keeps showing at the center of the arena: "sacrifice!" but i really don't know what do you want from me :P BTW, I'm impressed you managed it, 'cause it's a puzzle-like situation... your previous actions should nudge you to the answer.
SPOILERS: all I had to do was to hide in one of the cubicles where the monsters came from, and then I killed them all from the distance :P
but i still don't understand the puzzle XD i think i'll wait for someone to record a demo to see how they solve it =D Congratulations on the release!
FYI, I'm smachcutcreative on Reddit. :) Looking forward to giving this a proper play through later today. Glad you stuck with it, the shots look great. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/269709350 4:25 onwards.
Impressive first map. Some of the better designs and the grey + blue + base stuff work really well, lots of potential. Good layout too. Things that need work: Better texture combinations in some places. Better designs in a few more boring areas. Increase lighting contrast, gloomy and flat. MOAR ENEMIES. This could have had 2-3 times as much (with a bit more ammo etc) and still been fair and fun. Basically keep it going man, a really promising start. That was quite informative, I watched with great interest. Not sure I will make more elaborate lightning, but I tried to make a hotfix for most glarring issues:
- added some more enemies, but not that much. - tweaked some textures, filled some holes. - added a trap/secret in the well with nailgun. - Oh! And special barrier to discourage people from jumping to the specific ledge. (It was even easier to get there previously – one particular brick just catapulted the player upwards). While making map I wasn't thinking too much in terms of color matching and tried to make "cool" things I wanted to create, hoarding it all together, this scatteration most definitely affected the overall loook. Frankly speeking, I dread the light placement. My priority was to make it clear for the player where to go next, hence red arrows and red wires, plus I tried to implement some fancy eye steering with directional lines and color lights. Also, I'm quite proud of the beginning, where it shows a player that pressing buttons in sequence will be on the test, it shows the frames of the buttons and their relative placement, plus, of course, those grates that mirror secret grates under elevators. so...
i was watching shambler's video... the exit from the last arena is just a rocket jump? What about the "you have 3 seconds" message? what does it mean? :/ And i agree with the critiques about the lights. The map looks flat, like a cartoon, without shadows. I mean... he doesn't have any shadows at all :/ Would you be cool if I did a video critique of your map for my YT? Since this is one of your first maps? I did one here:
https://youtu.be/G-Z5kgkxwHI If not, no big deal I will still send you a demo. Here are 3 demos. I was doing great until the end -for some reason I kept quickloading instead of quicksaving!
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/demos/intrusion_dmptrk.zip Some thoughts: [SPOILERS!] *I think it's a mistake to have the player need to rocket jump to exit the level. I didn't have enough armor or health to do it without cheating. *Lighting. You had a minlight setting on your map or you set light in worldspawn (the same thing really). That's really not a good thing to do. As you can see people have noted your map looks flat. It's a shame because there are a lot of moody sections of your map. They would really be enhanced by lighting. *yeah more monsters across the board would be helpful. okay on to the GOOD stuff * I love how you toyed with the player and instructed them with messages. Not too obnoxious. It felt good. Just the right amount. * drink my blood moment was cool * hidden wizards (the face in the wall) was a very cool moment *some interesting uses of textures. some really good and clever - some not so good. Like a wall texture on a lift. :-\ *you had a lot of nice rooms and structures that worked well across the board. The "final" battle room was nice and the surrounding areas too. *good secrets overall - although I missed some of them I'd say great work on your first map! It was a large ambitious project and I usually tell beginners to start of small. But you pulled this one off pretty well. You have a great start here. Congrats. I'd still like to do a video on this map if you are interested. it's #1 rules for a proper map. The map must be sealed and vised.
Originally there were 4 shamblers, but I found it too brutal, I presumed that 2 is enough to kill player almost instantly. It's 3 seconds till the bars lower and you'll be stuck with 'em in an arena. So you have 3 seconds to escape them via rocket jump and then drown them in lava.
BTW, are shamblers immune to lava? Mines are surely don't give a damn, walking freely on the bottom of pit. Does trigger_hurt work on monsters? o: Can't check right now, since I'm not at my editing computer.
In case it doesn't work, you could also use invisible (by using skip textures) func_doors or func_trains to crush the shamblers. 1st of all, it's always really fun to see someone play your map and it was time well spent.
<SPOILERS> I made sure that the player has enough rockets, hp and armor to acomplish the jump. On the paper, the player should not engage shamblers and try to escape. Plus, rockets you have so plenty of are weak against them. Face in the wall was Shambler's idea. He suggested to add a scare in the well and I decided to brick up unlucky fellow near the nailgun. The wall is fake, so you can jump there. </SPOILERS> @PuLSaR About «sealing the map». I'm not so familiar with the concept, but I presume the brushes should not float in open space and structures should not have holes... there can be problems: there are plenty of trash behind the decorations (cut stuff, stuff for cutting, props...). If deleting these will make map better, I'll get down to it... eventually. I'll work on a video for this. Thanks for allowing me to critique it.
Please watch my video on releasing your map. There are a bunch of tips and best practices for your next release. That leads me to another tip: move on from this map and don't keep releasing new versions. Take what you've learned here and apply it to your next map. About «sealing the map». I'm not so familiar with the concept Make a simple box room out of six brushes that form a hollow cube, and stick an info_player_start inside that box. Make sure that there are no gaps where the brushes meet. Now compile the map and run it. When you noclip outside the box, you'll notice you don't see the backs of the brushes -- instead, you keep seeing the inside of the box even as you move into the void. This map is sealed: the brushes completely cut off the playable area from the void (i.e. endless empty space) around it. Now go back into the editor and move or resize one of the brushes a little so that there is a small gap between it and the other brushes. If you compile and load that map and noclip into the void, you'll notice that you can now see the backs of the brushes too: you'll see the entire structure you've made in the editor in-game, just sitting there in the void. This map is unsealed, or leaking. That's the basic idea, but it applies regardless of how complexly shaped your map is -- you should always make sure that it is sealed off from the void. Another way of thinking about it is to imagine that the void is made up of water, and you want to make your map watertight, so there should be no tiny spaces for the void/water to "leak" into the map. When your map is unsealed, the engine has draw tonnes of unnecessary stuff (the outside of the map that the player should never see), and you cannot run vis -- and when a map is unvised, the engine likewise has to draw tonnes lots of unnecessary stuff (i.e. the parts of the map beyond what the player should be able to see at any given point). Note that you cannot use brushes with a water/slime/lava texture to seal a map, so e.g. if the floor of room is made of slime and beyond that is just void, you'll need to stick another world brush underneath the slime brush to seal the map. The same applies to func_detail brushes, if I recall correctly. Sky brushes are fine, though. What about water brush, that sticks out of the cave walls? Does it leak?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=13w0xEE2lqO7qwZ50JuPF3CALO3R1f6LJ
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