how "quakey" does an unreal map have to be before people WITHOUT UNREAL INSTALLED can play it? 

<quote>Shambler, of course I want people to play it, but that wasn't what got me riled up. I didn't know if anyone had played it or not, only that no one told me one way or the other. Ain't the first time no one's told me anything either. Meanwhile, the normal blather continues and the first post is buried 60 posts back. People always looking for some excuse to *not* play games or like anything, maybe? </quote>

While I thoroughly disagree with what you're doing here - getting upset and making wild accusations instead of first asking intelligent questions of "why?" - I do empathize your situation. I've created mods and posted them to various forums and gotten a silence so deep it was deafening. You crave that feedback, because it means someone actually tried, and has whitnessed what you put so much work into. Often, getting flamed for a terrible map is far better than getting no response at all.

When I released my Quake1 mod Ace Of Nails and posted news here, I got a way better response than what I could have ever expected - two people tried it. One even posted comments in the Inside3d board, which I am very grateful for. I got useful feedback, and the satisfying acnowledgement that at least two people from func_msgboard had actually tried and whitnessed my creation.

For the rest of the people, the most frequent comment was "I don't do Deathmatch/Multiplayer". Didn't even give it a try. However, I'm not mad at them. Dissapointed, yes (I was looking forward to their comments); but I wasn't expecting them to take time out of their day playing a mod they didn't expect to enjoy.

When people here release maps - even Quake1 maps - I may download them if the screenshots interest me. And, if I somehow get the time and get in the mood, I'll pop the zip disk into my computer at home and actually play a few maps. The fate of a good 50-70% of the maps I see is to sit on my hard drive or zip disk and wait an eternity for me to find time for them between all my homework and other games.

However, when I do play a map, I usually go out of my way to post comments on them. Posting honest comments takes little work - I just write what I thought. You won't hear about misaligned textures or other nitpicks from me (I'm just a coder and a gamer, after all), but you will get comments on how much I enjoyed the map. Often specific areas that caught my interest, as well as problem areas that gave me trouble, will make it in there too. I'll comment on architecture, playability, and overall "awesomeness" (yes, the omnipotent technical term) of the map.

I do this because I, as a mod author, know what it's like to not recieve feedback. And, I respect a great many people on this board and feel they deserve some of my time.

The reason I didn't play your map? I own UT and UT2003, but not Unreal I or II. I didn't hear much good about it, and couldn't afford to buy a substandard game. It's nothing personal against you, I'm just poor and lazy. 

yeah, and they also used a couple of rubicon textures.

Anyway, it's a cool project. 

could've been me too. you know how I am, all kiked up on bloodlust and what not. 

You have put your foot in it

The reason I didn't play your map? I own UT and UT2003, but not Unreal I

For Unreal or Unreal Tournament. Get/see here
http://www.intergate.com/~spentron/unreal/

Now you have no excuse :) 

I've never once downloaded and tried a custom UT map. Too lazy, plus Quake is my thing. I don't even know hot to play custom maps in anything but Quake1, and don't care to learn.

However, I did download that huge UT pak that's just been released, because the screens were absolutely beautiful and enticing. However, I have no way of getting it home, and so I may never get around to trying it... 

I was going to metion that the "lazy clause" was your only saviour ;) 

spentron: I have all the Unreal's except UT2k3 and genuinely missed your original post (I really only skim the forum and post my speedmap annoucements). But now that you're flaming and being all whiney about it, fuck that. I'll just stick to Quake. 

lol 

...substandard game?? Yeah right. Dunno what you were reading Wazat, maybe some particularly fervent corner of teh Shack back in 98...

Where's the *rolls eyes* smiley?? 

wrath says I was: "whining 'they don't get it' "

No I whined *I* don't get it. Anyway, people say they like addon levels, gameplay AI blah blah... Me demo something trust me its fun see #2345 etc. Otherwise wait for me to come up with real release or something, better maybe. I'll chill now, please excuse the indulgence. 

Yeah I just completed it recently for the first time, I'd say even if you don't want to play the whole thing play the last third, its amazing if you like techy scifi stuff. 

Yes, those are Aardappel's levels... and the Galbraith bros. weapons... credits are listed right above the videos in plain sight -- and they include links to the authors' sites and/or EMail (whichever they wanted).

No big mystery -- it's all done with the authors' blessing -- as it should be.

We make some great tech., but when it comes to level design and modelling ... well ... have you ever seen programmer art? Just imagine it in 3D... <shudder>

Rand. 

Bleh, I'm bored. 

I know, you could bob for french fries. 

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Damn czg, you're buff, big boy! 

Todd then went on to discuss some of the most interesting aspects of Doom3. Although no release date was provided (albeit he did hint that it was at least four months away), he confirmed that Doom3�s installation size would likely exceed 3GB. In addition, the game would be locked with a hard-coded 60fps ceiling. Given how taxing this engine has proven to be in the early glimpses we have seen, that limit will still be difficult to reach by most hardware. Speaking of hardware, Todd informed the audience that the development platforms for Doom3 were all using GeForce FX graphics cards. This should erase any doubts of NVIDIA cards and their ability to run Doom3.

http://www.amdmb.com/article-display.php?ArticleID=267 

hold your horses there, little miss horsie-holder. (first punter to spot the source of that one wins.)

id are making doom3?

sheeit. 

but I thought even you would have known that ;)

It's just for approximation off waiting time, and there was a discussion back aways where some seem to think that it wouldn't run to well on the nVidia cards.

But I'm glad it help enlighten you :)(: 

n/t 

So, who or what are the Gilmore Girls? 

from your response, I reckon you googled it.

you're fired. 

Nope. Worse than that. I thought it sounded like a Bob Hope or maybe Groucho or even Mae West. But my mum said something along the lines of "so what has the Gilmore Girls got to do with Quake" - she was waiting for Heresp2 to download at the time. And she won't say any more. So, what gives...? 

she was waiting for Heresp2 to download at the time

Your mum plays Quake? Why does everyone else get to have cool parents? :( 

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