Are You Guys Serious?
#2391 posted by Tronyn on 2008/07/19 09:13:32
Nolan specifically stated that he will never include penguin (or robin, thank god!) because the character is "too far-fetched." Now, the reimagined, new penguin (an eccentric arms dealer) seems totally appropriate for nolan's universe, but apparently he thinks there is no way to make this character work in his batman universe. He will never include manbat, clayface, or poision ivy - any character that involves superpowers, mutation, or even anything beyond what a normal human COULD DO, I think, he will leave out. No explicit scifi or fantasy will be present in the new series.
In my view the best villain would be Bane (Batman's unholy trinity is Ra's Al Ghul (uber-moral), Joker (anti-moral) and Bane (amoral). I'd love to see someone like Eric Bana play an absolutely ruthless, unsympathetic, Nietzschean power-driven psychopath. If anyone could match Ledger's performance in creating a powerful, unique, anti-Batman perspective, that would be it.
PS Nitin: I agree with the noir feel, Following especially had that... and it is as you say very appropriate.
#2392 posted by Spirit on 2008/07/19 09:31:41
Watched Chinatown yesterday and while I really enjoyed it, the ending completely and utterly ruined it for me.
Chinatown
#2393 posted by nitin on 2008/07/19 09:42:18
has a great ending! Wouldnt be my second favorite movie without it :)
Hmm
#2394 posted by nonentity on 2008/07/19 20:26:44
Haven't seen it yet, but as for views on the next villains, I was assuming Riddler/Poison Ivy/Bane/Black Mask.
Given Ivy is apparently out due to 'super powers', my money is on Bane/Riddler (Bane+Black Mask wouldn't work since they're both basically disturbed gang leaders).
Making Bane dumb muscle in the 4th film was one of the greatest crimes in comic book adaptations, and Nolan has shown he knows his Batman with these two films (Ra's and Scarecrow... fsck yeh).
In an uneconomic, perfect world, Nolan would end Part 3 with Bane's victory over batman, and Arofonsky would start a new series with an entirely different style, as Azrael acts as Batman while Wayne recuperates.
Fscking YES. Shame it won't happen. (Although it is a bit too close to the Fall storyline, but would be a brilliant way to please the bat fans)
#2395 posted by Zwiffle on 2008/07/19 23:08:49
Bane/Ridder could work. Scarface *could* work, but I would seriously hope they wouldn't go there, since Scarface is one of the stupidest enemies ever. Who the fuck would ever follow a talking puppet? Catwoman could work, and possibly move into her own spinoff, but I imagine they'd want to stay away from Catwoman after the Halle Berry incidient.
Batman needs more ninjas!
Given Certain Events In The Film
#2396 posted by nitin on 2008/07/20 03:14:08
I think catwoman is pretty likely.
Just Watched A Film Called
#2397 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/07/20 03:49:28
"untraceable"
really good film. gritty in places but has a good ending. excellent ending infact - truely inspired I thought
Rofl
#2398 posted by megaman on 2008/07/20 22:27:00
i'm watching Underworld, and it's making me really angry at every script writer in hollywood, and the guys accepting and filming those scripts.
Another Rofl
#2399 posted by megaman on 2008/07/20 22:30:05
The goddamnawesome vampires use cheap plastic nokia cells.
Megaman
#2400 posted by Zwiffle on 2008/07/20 22:44:26
Ultraviolet is worse. Much worse.
Megaman
#2401 posted by nitin on 2008/07/21 00:22:04
there's a sequel too :)
and a prequel coming.
#2402 posted by mwh on 2008/07/21 02:08:19
Hancock
Uh, right. Has some promise, some moments and a lot of disjointed 'meh'.
Michael Clayton
Good. Was probably a little too tired when we watched it to pay the required amount of attention, but clearly a good film. Had slightly more believable corporate nastiness than many other films/books...
I'm sure I watched something else recently, but can't remember what. Obviously not that great :)
Underworld Isn't *That* Bad...
#2403 posted by mwh on 2008/07/21 02:10:24
I mean, it could be Van Helsing!
And clearly TDK is going to own hard. Not out here for a few more days though...
I Loved
#2404 posted by megaman on 2008/07/21 11:01:26
Michael Clayton. Not a really great film, but quite good. All the others complained about the tempo though, and i think i'd agree, the first time watch dragged a bit until you got to the meat of the story.
Michael Clayton
#2405 posted by nitin on 2008/07/21 11:54:35
is very very good. Theres one big plot hole but apart from that, theres class acting and writing at work.
So I've Seen A Fair Bit Of Stuff Recently
#2406 posted by nitin on 2008/07/21 11:55:36
but I cant be bothered cutting and pasting my comments unless someone's actually interested in reading about (mostly) obscurish stuff??
Hmm
#2407 posted by nonentity on 2008/07/21 19:48:14
What kind of obscurish stuff?
Give us a list of concept synopsese and we can point out the interesting ones...
The Quiet Earth
#2408 posted by [Kona] on 2008/07/22 05:00:17
Last movie i saw last week was The Quiet Earth, a New Zealand film from 1985. Definitely a hugely underrated film, and an extremely chilling, surreal ending. I'd say alongside Peter Jackson's movies and Once Were Warriors, has to be the best film NZ has put out.
Once Were Warriors
#2409 posted by nitin on 2008/07/22 11:41:27
I really dig that one, been waiting for a proper dvd for ages. Doubt it will happen though.
nonentity, it would take longer to do synopses than just cut and paste my comments :) Might just do that to bore anyone that actually reads them later.
Nitin
#2410 posted by Vigil on 2008/07/22 22:02:41
I actually read each and every one of your reviews here. They're great, if condensed.
Ohshi-
#2411 posted by Kinn on 2008/07/22 23:45:37
For Vigil Then
#2412 posted by nitin on 2008/07/23 11:33:38
Easy Living (1937) - screwball 'comedy' with Ray Milland and Jean Arthur that I didnt find all that funny. Part of it is probably because it is written by Preston sturges and his mix of snappy dialogue, eccentric characters and cheap slapstick has never worked for me. Has a few nice lines but not very worthwhile on the whole.
5/10
In Bruges (2008) - so far the second best of movie from this year that I have seen.
Irish playwright Martin Macdonaugh's debut is a deft mix of vicious humour and brutal violence. The dialogue is very sharp and literate and its delivered flawlessly by a surprisingly good Colin Farrell and the always good Brendan Gleeson, playing irish hitmen 'laying low' in Bruges after a job has gone wrong.
Its often hilarious, with most of the humour coming through great characterisation (Ralph Fiennes also has a ball playing a Ben Kingsley Sexy Beast type character). Falters a bit towards the end, but excellent stuff.
7.5/10
Tideland (2006) - Terry Gilliam's complete misfire attempt at an 'alice in wonderland' story. Its tedious, unfocused and weird for the sake of being weird. The central performance is pretty strong but never able to overcome the remaining mess of a film.
3/10
La Bete Humaine (1938) - excellent little movie from Jean Renoir which isnt included in his more celebrated work but which I found more satisfying than at least The Rules of the Game. Its beautifully shot and has such tight control over its narrative that its hard not to be impressed at the consummate skill on display.
Nothing original in the story, which is almost a eurpoean version of Double Indemnity, but it doesn't really matter when its this well made.
7.5/10
Written on the Wind (1956) - fine, if unremarkable, melodrama from Douglas Sirk. It's melodrama through and through but Sirk is obviously an expert in the genre, and while I cant say it made me any more appreciative towards the genre, its still quite an entertaining watch.
6.5/10
The Long Good Friday (1979) - extremely good british gangster film with Bob Hoskins in his best role and getting great support from a range of supporting actors but particularly Helen Mirren. It has a very dated 80's sounding score which occasionally distracts but otherwise its extremely tightly made with hardly any scene out of place and with plentiful dry british humour.
8/10
The Matador (2006) - pretty average odd-couple dramedy with Pierce Brosnan and Greg Kinnear, the former playing a burnt out hitman and the latter a burnt out businessman, whose characters run into each other at a bar and connect. Both of them are pretty good but are let down by banal scripting and direction that lacks any real focus and is also not all that amusing.
Probably being a bit harsh, but given how similar but better In Bruges was, its hard not to compare.
5/10
The Tailor of Panama (2001) - John Boorman's version of John Le Carre's satirical spy novel is a bit of a mess, but an entertaining one. The scripting and directing is a bit sloppy, too focused on characterisation in the first half and too focused on plot in the second half. It results in uneven pacing with everything feeling a bit too compressed once the plot kicks in.
But Pierce Brosnan, as a semi-washed up foreign services officer who is given a posting in Panama so he will not be able to cause any trouble, and Geoffrey Rush, as a Panamian tailor who is reluctantly convinced into spying on his customers, are in top form and some of the dialogue is excellent.
6/10
Be Kind Rewind (2008) - oh dear, is this really the same guy that made ,b>Eternal Sunshine? It's pretty apparent that Michel Gondry at least needs either strong actors or a strong script to keep him in check (his last one would have flown off the rails in a similar fashion to this if Charlotte Gainsborough and Gael Garcia Bernal were not in it).
Jack Black is back to annoying (which is hardly surprising since he is the front and centre of the movie and given free rein) but that's only one of the problems in this unfunny, overlong, self indlugent mess. And I dont know how deliberate it is, but the movie itself is shot in a very sloppy amateurish manner which is very distracting (well it was something that caught my eye since nothing else was).
3/10
Memory Returns
#2413 posted by mwh on 2008/07/23 11:46:28
So I said:
I'm sure I watched something else recently, but can't remember what. Obviously not that great :)
I was wrong, it was No Country For Old Men. Which, as has been mentioned in this thread already, is awesome.
#2414 posted by megaman on 2008/07/23 12:23:22
For Vigil Then
And me.
Tideland
#2415 posted by [Kona] on 2008/07/24 05:19:10
I absolutely loved Tideland. It had it's flaws (such as the retard character), but it was definitely Gilliams fantasy style pulled off well. Jodelle Ferland made the movie though - her acting was great. She made Silent Hill aswell - future star.
Currently watching Barry Lyndon as I type this... what a bore.
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