So, it's actually good then?

Friends of mine seem to be doing the same 'uh, yeah, I'm having fun' thing.

And the post that pointed to Carmack's GameSpy rant about the drivers being fucked on PC I can relate to.

Will get it sooner rather than later. 

Having a gamepad to pick up as soon as you jump in a vehicle really helps, cause racing with keyboard is super shitty.

I'm having fun, some stuff is a bit stupid, but overall it's a nice game so far. 

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I had zero problems with most of the races, keyboard controls felt good. Only those random checkpoint races were impossible to win and not much fun to me.

Most races were trivially easy, I won them at the first try. Even the "I am the best driver, try to beat me" ones... 

I have a friend who plugged his XBox controller into his PC. But I am used to using the D-Pad for racing. Like, I've been doing that for over a decade.....

(doesn't understand the gripe)

I can understand the gripe about it being too easy though..... 

Did anyone else notice that when you play that gambling minigame with the 4 monsters and the sheriff in the middle, when you lose and the sheriff dies, he makes the same sound as when you died in DooM 3. 

I've been using the keyboard for racing too; the only problem I've had is that it's a mite tricky to get back in a straight line if you crash, but otherwise the controls are really really well balanced.

Yeah the game is FUN. In many ways it reminds me of the classic run from 95-ish to 98-ish when so much good stuff came out in such a short time, and I've been breaking into silly grins, going "wow, would you look at that!", and laughing with joy at regular intervals. So what if it doesn't have bumpmapping plastered on like mascara, it's the better for it.

Final Fantasy 7 is probably it's closest ancestor, there's a lot in common between them. 

Scientific fact and end of story. Took me 6 attempts to do the beginner's one, about 15 attempts to do the next one (on Easy skill specially for the race).

Most silly as the rest of the game controls and plays well, even with the annoying damage feedback. 

The key handling issue with the cars imo is that you can't reverse in a stable way. Tap left or right and your car does a j-turn. Which is fucking annoying. Spinning and driving backward to shoot someone chasing you seemed like a good tactic. But you can't do it.

The racing is pretty easy though apart from the rocket rally which is fucking retarded.

The racing would be far better without the weapons really. Shock horror. 

...had sex with my eyeballs. Not just the graphics but the sounds and general atmosphere, stunning. Gameplay was fun too although I wish it relied less on monsters ganking up your vision... 

Do not get your hopes up for a big higher resolution texture pack: https://twitter.com/#!/ID_AA_Carmack/status/125001438790287362


PS: Twitter is so stupid. Why am I not seeing eg replies JC posts if I am following him but only on his profile page? 

Just saw the ending - was that a total setup for "Enemy Territory: Rage Wars" or what?

That aside it was fantastic. I got a solid 28 hours out of it, loved every moment, and definitely going to do a replay soon-ish (think I might wait on the next patch though). 

This morning before work. Final level felt 'final' thematically, but I never ended up using the BFG because I was expecting a final boss type thing. Only after I pressed the final switch did I realize my error. So, no BFG use in the first playthrough for me.

The final area also felt like a mix of Prey and Mass Effect. The Authority Mutants looked like hunters from Prey. The color scheme matched Prey. The metallic plates matched Prey. Probably coincidence, but still felt very cool.

I will need to go back and play through, as I never got the Monarch (wtf??) and I'm sure there's a lot more areas to explore and races to have in the Wasteland than what I experienced.

Great game overall once it started working with a half-expected bad ending, DO WANT TOOLS. 

The only real "boss" I can think of in that game was the giant mutant/authority thing in the Hospital. Some thing like that would have at least felt like closure. 

Things what I have noticed:

1. It looks GREAT.

2. Yes there are blurry textures and yes there are completely non-interactive objects, this is not so good, but the overall effect is so good it doesn't detract that much.

3. The controls feel nice. Smooth and responsive. This is a welcome change to many games.

4. Exploding enemies is fun.

5. The ambient sounds are great. I haven't seen anyone mentioning this but they are definitely well done, like the flies and the drips and the wind and creaking noises. I have the music very low as standard.

6. Subway Town has a lot of cute chicks in skimpy clothes and increasingly ridiculous hats. This is good.

7. I am struggling to choose between Elizabeth and Jani. Opposite ends of the spectrum really.

8. Gameplay is fun. Despite being disappointingly mostly humanoid enemies, there's actually some good variety with different weapons definitely suiting different enemy.

9. There is a ludicrous fuckton of weaponry in this game. Including different ammo types I make it effectively 19 weapons PLUS 2 offhand weapons PLUS 3 main offensive "sidekicks". More than you need by a long way, especially the bog standard machine gun, but still it allows a lot of fun kills, and the offhand items are very useful combined with normal weapons.

10. The racing.....okay the main problem with the races I was having. The Dune Buggy is fairly shit and that god-fucking-awful obstacle-fest-frustrathon Dusty 8 is utterly shit. Having got other vehicles and gone on other races, the driving is actually fine. The controls are only shit with the Dune Buggy and the Dusty-shitting-8 track is especially shit. Even after cruising many other races, I still find that one fucking horrendous. Wasteland combat is a bit crap, the jumps are fun tho. 

Pretty much nails it. The only thing I'd disagree with is the Buggy - once you get the boost upgrade for it, it's quite awesome for both control and speed. The trick I found was to bind the arrow keys instead of WASD, use shift for boost, and it gets a lot easier.

Dusty 8 is a colossal pain. 

Alison. ;) 

Concepts/models
http://cghub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8206 

Shamblers 3rd point cannot be overstated. The controls feel absolutely fucking great compared to any other game I have played in the last couple of years. It feels direct. You move the mouse, the view changes. No delays. No feeling like you're wrapped in cotton. It's awesome. 

look amazing in the shots I've seen, but my oh my does that concept art look bland. Technically very good I'm sure, but you could have taken those items out of Quake 4. 

RLY? Guess you like the more....sober styled ladies... 

If you want to see more rage art stuff like what Zwiffle posted:
Before / After shots of stamp work on the environment art.
http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90081
Character Art.
http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89974

I agree that lots of the designs are pretty generic, but it works overall, and they are very well done, so I don't mind. 

Of course, Ginny's the best of them all; I'm sure we'll agree on that. 

great before/afters, looks really effective. Considering how minimal the performance hit is (according to Carmack), no wonder it runs so well! 

...yeah I can dig that.