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Posted by Shambler on 2003/05/11 15:08:47 |
I thought a trio of themed threads about other entertainment media might be good. If you're not interested, please just ignore the thread and pick some threads that interest you from here: http://celephais.net/board/view_all_threads.php
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Cloverfield
#2306 posted by bal on 2008/04/08 23:10:04
Movie is ok, but no nitin, it's nowhere near vomit inducing as the 2 last Bourne films, those were friggin horrible, way to go for making the shots cheaper to produce by cutting them every 5 milliseconds.
#2307 posted by nitin on 2008/04/11 11:36:16
Bonnie & Clyde (1967) - not too sure about the score but otherwise its hard to fault this great great film. Although the shifts in tone are rapid, they are never jarring and always flow well despite the movie switching from a light hearted tone to a more darker one quite frequently.
The performances are uniformly excellent from Warren Beatty, Faye Dunaway, Gene Hackman and Estelle Parsons and it really is unfair to single one out but Dunaway's melancholic portrayal of Bonnie was the most impressive in my eyes.
There is a great attention to character and unlike most movies which rely heavily on background and events to build character, this one seems to do it by focusing on small actions and gestures that reveal a lot.
9/10
Quiet Earth (1985)
#2308 posted by bambuz on 2008/04/12 20:26:24
I don't know what dictates that if you are doing movies, only crappy scifi will do. It must be some film director conspiracy.
This one was a nice movie in many instances and quite well and detailedly done but as a whole just didn't work.
From New Zealand by the way. So much potential, but the script is just so bad. There were some nice points in it but the badness overcame.
#2309 posted by anonymous user on 2008/04/12 20:29:24
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Rescue Dawn
#2310 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/04/14 00:00:05
Watched this in UK, I dont know if would have the same title in oher countries...
Christian Bale plays a US pilot back in the Vietnam war, who crashes in Laos and is a POW.
I liked this film, it was gripping but not too gritty, reasonably well acted and made me laugh a few times near the end. Quite long, but not too long.
Good! :-D
7-8/10
Rescue Dawn
#2311 posted by nitin on 2008/04/14 12:46:47
yep, pretty good, bale cant do any wrong at the moment.
if you liked the story, check out the doco Little Dieter needs to Fly, by the same director and quite interesting (and different).
We Own The Night
#2312 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/04/14 16:01:19
Joaquin Phoenix (sp?) plays a New York club manager who get caught up in the war against drugs with his brother and father both high-ranking police officers, and his friends/colleagues being various gang members...
This film pretty much blew me away. Phoenix gives a truly stunning performance as a man under unbelievable stress who makes the transformation from being 'on the fence' to having taken his side, and defending his family.
The film is beautifully shot and the screenplay plays out in a manor which gives an unbelievable feeling of tension/unease, it was truly gripping. The action sequences pull no punches in displaying the horrors of what has to go on in a war against drug dealers, and it is this shock value which I believe gave this film a real edge. Outstanding!
8.5/10
Mr Brooks
#2313 posted by mwh on 2008/04/15 07:37:21
Odd film about a serial killer. Could have been a lot more interesting than it was, 6/10?
We Own The Night
#2314 posted by nitin on 2008/04/15 13:53:04
phoenix was very good and the rainstorm car chase was brilliant, but I didnt care for the rest of it as I found it to be a poor imitation of other better movies.
Ben X
#2315 posted by megaman on 2008/04/16 00:47:11
http://imdb.com/title/tt0953318/
is one of the best movies i've seen in the last two years.
#2316 posted by nitin on 2008/04/17 14:25:56
American Gangster - ridley scott's latest shamelessly steals from The Godfather, Scarface, Serpico and Heat but despite all that thievery and a narrative that looks to be far too familiar, scott manages to make the film not feel all that familiar.
Part of it is down to the attention given to certain superfluous scenes which don�t really add much to the narrative flow but do a lot in setting up character and mood. The rest of it is probably down to a reasonably intelligent script and impressive performances from Crowe and Washington, the latter finally doing something worthwhile in recent times. It's also brilliantly shot, successfully emulating the Godfather's shadowy style in grand manner without resorting to direct plagiarism.
7.5/10
Futurama : Bender's Big Score - Much like The Simpsons movie, how much you like this will really depend on how much you liked the latter part of the series. Personally, I found the first 2 seasons great and the last 2 seasons above average at best and the movie is much more like the later seasons, only longer.
4.5/10
Dawn of the Dead (1978) - rewatch and I don�t like it, in fact I actually much prefer the remake (which despite all its flaws had a brilliant first and last 20 min).
George Romero's original is a B movie through and through. The acting is bad, it looks bad and the direction's average. Sure, it's ambitious with all its attempts at social commentary and the recent movies that have copied its themes have probably not executed them as well but they are better movies on the whole. I just couldnt get into this one.
4.5/10
Inside
#2317 posted by negke on 2008/04/20 09:15:14
Thanks for this movie, gibbie...
#2318 posted by nitin on 2008/04/26 05:13:35
Oliver Twist (1948) - All the david lean films I have seen have been great and this one is no exception. There are certain omissions from the Dickens story but I personally think it works better because of them as the original story got far too contrived by the end.
The look and atmosphere are exceptional and the casting is first rate, with alec guiness putting in yet another memorable performance as Fagin.
8/10
Mouchette (1967) - kind of a companion piece to Bresson's earlier Au Hasard Balthasar and again utilising his unique technique of stripping away any emotive acting and leaving it up to the viewer to determine how to react. Its really a brilliant technique and it works extremely well in all his films, but the way it works here from about the 30 min mark on is quite remarkable.
Essentially a coming of age story for a young, outcast girl in a small french town but one that is enveloped in cruelty, disconnection and lack of companionship. Not an easy watch, but quite a worthwhile one.
7/10
Dark Victory (1939) - far too melodramatic story about the impact of sudden terminal illness with the great Bette Davis surprisingly uneven in the main role.
The characters are actually quite well etched but the plotting tends to get quite heavy handed and during the more serious moments, Davis veers into overacting quite often. It�s a pity, because when the film and Davis do work, its quite a neat show.
5.5/10
A Foreign Affair (1948) - disappointing effort from Billy Wilder, which is compounded by the fact that the material actually had quite a lot of potential.
The tone is completely wrong in most scenes, turning what should have been an intriguing dark drama into a mostly lighthearted comedy. Its strange because it comes from the period where Wilder was at his darkest rather than from his later period of comedies. Not a complete misfire because the dialogue and exchanges still retain his classy wit, but definitely a missed opportunity.
5.5/10
A Mighty Heart - Considering how prone the material could have been to exploitative sentimentality and how much it depends on information bombardment, I found that there was expert control demonstrated by the director and actors. The docudrama approach is very well done and I particularly appreciated attention to little details such as conversations between background characters, although admittedly this does not come across in the subtitles.
Jolie was very good but so was most of the rest of the largely unknown cast. It would have been a better film though if there was more time given to the aftermath of Daniel Pearl's death rather than leaving that as an aside at the end.
7/10
Time to Leave (2005) - pretentious, self conscious, but more importantly, dull and distant movie about a fashion photographer who is diagnosed with terminal cancer and struggles to determine what to do with the very short time he has left.
Francois Ozon usually makes movies that have the first two characteristics mentioned above but generally they are also good films. This time he struggles to involve his audience in his story because of poor characterisation and eye rolling occurrences. The acting is good and there's even a cameo from the great Jeanne Moreau but Ozon can do much better than this.
4/10
Wag The Dog (1997) - extremely average, pseudo satire that thinks its a lot cleverer and funnier than it actually is. The content had a lot more potential but Barry Levinson seems content in just making an average tongue in cheek 'comedy' in which a fixer, called in to cover up the president's pre-election sex scandal, decides that a fake hollywood produced war is the answer.
The writing lacks bite and the acting varies, with Hoffman and Deniro sleepwalking through their roles and Anne Heche dreadful as the president's PR manager.
4.5-5/10
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#2319 posted by nitin on 2008/04/26 05:28:53
The Mist - firstly, if you get the chance, watch the director preferred B&W version. Both the standard colour and b&w version are on the dvd, and it only took me a a couple of min of flicking through to be convinced that the b&w version is heaps better. It looks much more striking, the feel is much more claustrophobic, the CGI looks better and the whole thing just has a more foreboding atmosphere, which is a key ingredient in a horror film. Doubt many theatres would show this version, but it's really the better way to see it.
Secondly, it's the best horror film in years (well, at least the b&w version is anyway), probably since The Descent. There's a few internal logic gaps, but if you're willing to get past them, it's a well acted and well written movie thats just a whole lot of fun.
Like The Descent, although there is gore present, its not the focus as it is in so many other 'horror' films coming out these days. Instead, there is a lot more attention to character and also psychological horror. It goes onto the list of recent movies with memorable endings.
7-7.5/10
Shanghai Gesture (1941) - No idea how this got past the censors back in the day, it's a dark, bleak film with amoral characters in abundance. It's also another highly stylised and engrossing movie from Josef von Sternberg with tons of atmosphere and an interesting story centering on a gambling house in Shanghai where al sorts of shady dealing and characters go on.
Well worth checking out.
7-7.5/10
Nitin
#2320 posted by Tronyn on 2008/04/27 22:19:18
Are you talking about the new The Mist? Isn't that a remake (maybe I'm mistaken) and isn't it based on Steven King (imho, a hack whose output far exceeds his talent)?
If it is like The Descent though I will watch it... the Descent was awesome, to me it seemed like there were hints of something... some seriously fucked up imagery seemed to hint to me that it wasn't just nature, or a person's perception of nature, but some "third party" involved (outside her mind, not just within). The vaguest, creepiest hints - similar to (the best of) Lovecraft's method, even, where the nature of the threat is not totally certain or defined.
Damn that was creepy.
Tronyn
#2321 posted by nitin on 2008/04/27 23:27:01
yep, the new The Mist. Pretty sure it's not a remake, and yes it is based on the King book (and unfortunately it kind of shows in some scenes).
It's not really like The Descent, much more straighforward than that, I just think it's the best new horror film since then. But starbuck made some comments earlier that are valid (he didnt like it as much as I did). But I'm not sure if he saw the b&w version, which is a lot better in terms of atmosphere and addresses a few of the shortcomings from the color version.
Tronyn
You're confusing The Mist and The Fog.
Who Wants
#2323 posted by Zwiffle on 2008/05/02 22:08:58
to go see Iron Man??? YEAH!!!!!
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Best Post Ever
#2325 posted by rj on 2008/05/02 23:42:09
#2326 posted by nitin on 2008/05/06 12:21:52
Juno - its pretty obvious within the first 5 min that there's going to be a rhythm of speech that's just not normal and/or realistic. It doesn’t take long to get used to it, but I still found that in this particular case, it was unnecessary, try hard clever and distracting.
Luckily, the longer the movie goes on the less it features and it also helps that the movie works, not as a comedy but as a lightweight drama. Most of that is down to good characterisations and strong performances all around which help paper over the showy, pretend cool dialogue that plagues most of the first half hour of the movie.
7/10
Marathon Man (1976) - surely one of the greatest thrillers ever? It fires in pretty much every department and the only weak link is the slightly convoluted plot but there is so much attention to little details and the way Conrad Hall's camerawork and William Goldman's script combine in establishing character is quite remarkable. J
ohn Scheslinger amps up the suspense beautifully and Hoffman, Olivier, Scheider and co put in great work.
8.5/10
The Taste of Cherry (1997) - Abbas Kiarostami's movie is fairly basic in plot, a middle aged man drives around Tehran looking for a man who will do a 'job for him', and even more basic in style. But amongst all that simplicity, he has quite a number of involving characters to introduce and quite a few interesting turns to make.
It all happens slowly, taking 20 min or so to reveal the 'job' and another 40 min or so till the main character finds someone to do it, but interspersed between all those plot revelations are conversations that appear to be banal but are rich in ideas.
But then there's the ending. Kiarostami builds to an extraordinary climax and then does something that is likely to catch most people off guard, and I'm guessing slightly annoyed. I cant say I understand the need for the last sequence, I personally think the movie would have been better off leaving it out as it distracts rather than adds to the penultimate sequence which is brilliantly executed.
7/10
Blow Out (1981) - Brian De Palma has a habit of taking A grade material from elsewhere and making entertaining B movies out of them. Sometimes though, like in Dressed to Kill, the A grade material he 'borrows' is outright classic stuff and an entertaining B movie in the same vein is just not enough (it was Psycho in that particular case).
For this one, he combines two great films, Coppola's The Conversation and Antonioni's Blow Up, and the result is the same, a mildly entertaining movie with some great camerawork (there's two scenes near the end that are equally as good as anything in both the original films) but with a poor script and patchy performances.
A pity, because when he gets it right, he's a very talented filmmaker.
5.5/10
Attack On Precinct 13
#2327 posted by bambuz on 2008/05/10 02:22:56
Cheesy, lots of continuity problems, really stupid things (the outside is full of snipers, so naturally all the characters hang out at the door windows and stick their neck out every now and then, the baddies are just ultra evil with no reason etc etc...
But it has some charm too... It avoids the over-emotionalism and screaming that plagues many tense enclosed movies and plays in general.
The theme is so extremely familiar, I'm thinking some C64 game, but couldn't find it in my sids. Anybody know? This one recycles the melody too (fast forward a bit)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayV5xzUAalw
so you can hear it. Carpenter was multi-talented as he made that himself.
American Psycho
#2328 posted by bambuz on 2008/05/10 02:45:38
Heh, this was both parody and madness. Much better than what I expected it to be. I still can't judge Bale. He might have potential, I say. I don't really know - it's either hard to pull this kind of (weird) movie off well (just the freaking business cards ffs) or then it was just usual but sleek.
Is it resting on Bale or the usual "everything just works" smoothness? Or both? Or what? The message?
I guess I suck at understanding movies. Not having slept last night might have something to do with it.
If you remember yuppies from the late eighties, even vaguely, then this movie is definitely worth watching.
I Didnt Care Much For That Movie Either
#2329 posted by nitin on 2008/05/10 05:52:34
but bale's a gun. His recent string of movies is a quite a good track record.
I'm Into Mergers And Aquisitions
#2330 posted by Tronyn on 2008/05/10 06:59:00
I've been way more impressed by what Bale's done post-American Psycho, but to me it is a great movie. The sarcastic (but not overly so) attitude is what gives it its awesome mood, I mean when he pronounces lines like "And Less Materialism!" it's hard to tell if he means it and he's exposing their hypocrisy (and wants to kill them), or if he is just joking and is totally beyond the pale (and wants to kill them). Hell, if they hadn't cast Bale as Batman because of that movie they could have cast him as the Joker. There was a lot of shallow bullshit in the 80s; the movie seems faithful to the book's idea that the overload of pleasure could lead to lethal boredom.
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