Photoshop Alternatives
#22843 posted by starbuck on 2013/05/18 15:55:39
on the mac, Pixelmator is plenty good, they're tearing it up nowadays.
http://www.pixelmator.com/
For a hobbyist, I'd definitely recommend it over Photoshop. It only costs $15 and has a lot of features that casuals will love, and a really slick, fully featured interface.
Of course if you're thinking of doing anything professional, especially if you'll have to work with other designers, Photoshop/Illustrator/Indesign is still the only option.
I think the subscription model is reasonable, but it still irks me not to actually own software I've paid for. Oh well, that's the way things are going it seems.
#22844 posted by Spiney on 2013/05/18 18:20:59
I think the subscription model is reasonable, but it still irks me not to actually own software I've paid for. Oh well, that's the way things are going it seems.
I feel the same, it seems subscription models are increasingly becoming the way of the future.
(random idea)
Something that would be cool would be an image editor where the layer system is swapped for a node based system. That way it wouldn't be a one way street. I often get into weird and redundant layer configurations where I wish I could just tell Photoshop "use this layer R channel as input for this layer's mask". Would be slower but could save a lot of memory and hasstle at times. Another thing that irks me is the layer style system not being modular.
Some more modularity between the subsystems would be cool also, the brush system can be made to stroke vector paths, but it would be nice if this was dynamic rather than just stamping on the pixels. Hmmm, maybe I should write my own image editor :P
@sock
How about making the kickstarter price really low? Like $10... just see how much cash you generate in a months time. Even if all you make is $10 you will still be making money for a project that you are going to already be doing...
At least this way you can gauge the interest properly (remember, you don't generate interest *before* the kickstarter, you generate interest *while* kickstarting)...
I'd certainly pay $10 for a whole new expansion pack if it was done properly. :)
Random Mapping Nothing
#22846 posted by Qmaster on 2013/05/18 22:58:18
Your map is getting big when it takes you 30 secs to zoom in the 2D views in Worldcraft just so you can use it smoothly after loading it.
Your map is getting big when you can't see what you're doing in the 2D views anymore.
Your map is getting big when you get lost in your own map.
Maps Getting Too Big In WC?
#22847 posted by quaketree on 2013/05/19 04:37:44
Use the "Group" function to combine finished rooms brushes and the use the "Hide Selected" function to hide selected groups. You can still compile hidden groups, it just helps to unclutter the 2d and 3d windows and it speeds up rendering times in the editor.
Heh
#22848 posted by Tronyn on 2013/05/19 09:48:29
respect, Qmaster (my reviews are in the works).
I found it a milestone when WC/Hammer told me "too many objects in view" and would no longer display anything unless I selected it. Of course, there's the visgroup solution to it. Heh. Just surprised me.
Spiney
#22849 posted by starbuck on 2013/05/19 12:05:24
all good points and ideas. Along the same lines, I think some more ability to use variables would be nice. I.e. LESS/SASS style color definitions, so I could change one "@accent-color: #ff0000" and it'd change shape layers, shadows, text with that color to whatever I choose.
The text styles thing they've got going on seems a bit weak but is going the right direction though.
I feel like the node idea might have been adopted already if it wasn't such a one horse race.
Node Based Editing
#22850 posted by bal on 2013/05/19 14:16:41
This already exists in apps like After Effects, Shake and other post-processing software, and many people have asked for more of it in Photoshop. Adobe have started putting some stuff like that a bit, with non-destructif filters and such, but it requires using smart layers, and is just generally pretty half assed and useless. :(
#22851 posted by sock on 2013/05/19 14:57:37
with non-destructif filters and such, but it requires using smart layers, and is just generally pretty half assed and useless.
Seriously what planet are you on! the filter layers are awesome, extremely easy to add, test out settings, combine them and re-arrange the order. It also does not require smart layers (cs5+), you just add them. The only downside is you cannot apply them to groups which would be useful for global style effects.
Nodes Are More Powerful But...
#22852 posted by Spiney on 2013/05/19 15:49:07
are less intuitive to grasp than the layer concept though. It might steepen the learning curve for more casual users.
It's Also Very Easy To Think Of Analogue Equivalents To Layers
#22853 posted by Spiney on 2013/05/19 15:50:02
Sock
#22854 posted by bal on 2013/05/19 17:32:45
Mmmm... I'm on CS5, and I don't see how to use them without smart layers. When I try to it says my layer needs to be converted to a smart layer, which makes it useless for me.
Maybe it's better in CS6, haven't tried it yet (we're still using CS5 at work).
What I'd want the most in Photoshop is a way to instance layers, that would make my job so much easier. You can kind of do it with smart layers, tried to use them for a while but it's really clunky and wasn't worth the effort in the end for me.
#22855 posted by Spirit on 2013/05/19 18:06:48
Selling Quake
#22856 posted by ijed on 2013/05/19 22:25:51
Why not release the source? Maybe I'm being naive, but it worked for id.
#22857 posted by sock on 2013/05/19 23:16:06
@Bal, I use the shortcut icon to create the special filter layer. I rarely use the menu's and I never get any messages about smart layers. Honestly I find them amazing and they have saved me destroying original layers because of effects. I often put the filters into groups so I can test different combinations.
Sock
#22858 posted by bal on 2013/05/20 08:03:16
Do you mean adjustment layers? Those are fine (and I also use them a lot), but what I'm talking about is smart filters, for instance having a filter applied to a layer that gives it a gaussian blur, but that you can still paint in (and the blur would be applied more or less on the fly, depending on how expensive it is, and be able to tweak it like an adjustment layer), honestly don't see how that's possible in CS5 without using smart layers (which makes it alot less useful).
Evangelion + Pacific Rim Mashup
#22859 posted by ijed on 2013/05/20 21:59:24
Ijed
#22860 posted by mfx on 2013/05/20 23:32:31
have you seen this already?
www.dailymotion.com/video/xzc0u2_giant-god-warrior-appears-in-tokyo_shortfilms#.UZqV_Hkgvxc
Arghh!!
#22861 posted by mfx on 2013/05/20 23:33:49
#22862 posted by sock on 2013/05/20 23:46:32
@mfx, sorry but that was terrible, you should be playing THIS!?!
Bal
#22863 posted by sock on 2013/05/20 23:50:15
Do you mean adjustment layers? Those are fine (and I also use them a lot)
Yeah sorry man, I mean adjustment layers, it has been years since I have found a use for the filters anymore! The adjustment system is amazing, it certainly would be cool if they extended the adjustment system to affect groups.
Sock
#22864 posted by mfx on 2013/05/20 23:59:29
i don't know...
#22865 posted by Spiney on 2013/05/21 00:52:30
it certainly would be cool if they extended the adjustment system to affect groups.
You can do something among those lines by setting the knockout, but I've never used it myself.
http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=26131&seqNum=4
Being able to set adjustment layers to target group as a clippy mask would be nice though.
OK
#22866 posted by RickyT33 on 2013/05/21 14:33:14
So I start my new job tomorrow.
My new boss called me last week to discuss what kind of workstation to get. He is a pure Apple fanboi, and naturally asked me 'How would you like a nice brand new PowerMac?'. I have never used a mac, so I said (trying to remain on the fence) 'I'm not averse to the idea of learning to use a mac, but for the last 15+ years I've been a Windows user, and learning a new OS would slow me down some'. Then he said that on a mac there is no right-mouse-button. 'AAAAAaaargh!' I cried, and convinced him that I needed a PC.
Would anyone here tell me any different? The job is web design.
#22867 posted by Spirit on 2013/05/21 14:50:51
Use what you are comfortable with as long as it can run the software you are required to use (if you are).
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