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(Because I done fucked up!)
LEFTARROW: move object left RIGHTARROW: move object right UPARROW: move object forward DOWNARROW: move object back CTRL+LEFTARROW: rotate object left CTRL+RIGHTARROW: rotate object right CTRL+UPARROW: move object up CTRL+DOWNARROW: move object down SHIFT+LEFTARROW: duplicate object and move the clone left SHIFT+RIGHTARROW: duplicate object and move the clone right SHIFT+UPARROW: duplicate object and move the clone forward SHIFT+DOWNARROW: duplicate object and move the clone back CTRL+SHIFT+LEFTARROW: duplicate object and rotate clone left CTRL+SHIFT+RIGHTTARROW: duplicate object and rotate clone right CTRL+SHIFT+UPARROW: duplicate object and move the clone up CTRL+SHIFT+DOWNARROW: duplicate object and move the clone down Combine these with well chosen grid settings and you will be an unstoppable Quake editing beast of righteous fury. have "duplicate offset" in the options menu
That way, (most i think?) people can set this as (0,0,0), whilst others who prefer it to be offset can give it a different value. Maybe the entire concept is not so good. Maybe it would be better to always duplicate objects just by dragging them, e.g. Ctrl+Drag will create a clone and move that. OTOH, I wanted to use Ctrl+Drag to select multiple objects in a future version. But that could still be achieved if the drag starts with an unselected object. If it starts with a selected object, the selected objects would be cloned. this sounds like an even better idea. Well I read the 'free for beer' part, and thought 'Well, I can't buy him a beer directly - where do I donate?!'. And I actually went looking for the Paypal donate button. But there was none. So....
If I thought of it, others must have (surely :) Maybe there'll be a few beers in it for you if you give us the means to buy you one! You see I tried the editor, and I was so impressed and excited that it's a live project, I thought it WAS worth a beer. Fribbles, I think your proposal will interfere with other actions which are done using the arrow keys. Also I don't like the clone + rotate options because it can create the same problem as duplicate in place if the brush is symmetric. Also I'm not sure how often it's necessary to clone + rotate in place. And it's not much more work to clone-drag, then rotate.
Is always welcome, and if any of you guys is ever in Berlin (or I am near your place), you can buy me as many beers as you like (and I can drink).
I know I'm late to the party, but I wanted to thank you for making this, porting it over and continuing to support it!
This editor is full of win. I'm waiting till I have more time to fully dive into it (ok, full disclosure, I also really need the free fly mode before I can really get into it - I'm just too accustomed to it because of Radiant and my editor at work). There's a lot to like here though! Quite frankly I'm amazed at how slick and easy to use this is. Top shelf! Yeah, the last commands are just fruity bonus ones (although I do use the dupe + moveup/down a fair bit at work in our editor). I understand that some of what I proposed differs from or conflicts with the current paradigm.
Another limitation/difference you will note is that I favour moving the objects up/down using CTRL+UP/DOWNARROW which conflicts with the rotation commands in TrenchBroom. My reasoning is that moving up and down is a much more common activity than rotating up/down. Of course, if the actions are there and can be remapped by the user, everybody wins. Thanks, I'm happy to hear that you like it. Flythrough mode will happen in 1.1, due in a couple of weeks.
And you will be able to customize the keyboard in 1.1, too, so there's no point in discussing the current selection of keyboard shortcuts ;-). I'll keep my stupid suggestions to myself then. (Oh yeah you wish!) Here's a few more random thoughts and what have you.
Copy/paste transform Useful for quickly repositioning objects or replacing stuff. "I want that thing over here." As you expect by now I offer key combo suggestions! CTRL+SHIFT+C = copy transform of currently selected object CTRL+SHIFT+V = paste selected object to saved transform Gizmos and widgets Stick to your guns and find the right solution for TrenchBroom. Let's be real and admit that certain things (such as small movement manipulators and fully mouse driven camera controls tee hee) can waste time and reduce productivity. Mouse wheel to resize stuff Just a suggestion. Get rid of the mouse wheel to zoom the view, and make it resize the brush according to the currently selected face. For example, select a face and mouse wheel up/down would effectively move that face positive/negative along its normal or the closest axis, whatever. Wheeeee! (The current method is fine, just for fun and freestyling.) Texture flip request Please make the flip operations work for the currently selected face (that is, change the scale to -1 (or negative<current value>) horizontally or vertically, whichever was chosen. Toggle it back to positive if it was already negative. Do this and you may genuinely never need to use the texture dialogue to enter manual offsets which would elicit a loud and hearty FUCK YES from everyone who ever used a level editor. Ok, two more things and then I'll shut up for the night.
Selecting objects Area select would be welcome of course, but please additionally consider paint select (both for brushes and faces) ala GtkR because it's just so fucking good. Toggle brush outlines Apologies if this has been mentioned (or can already be changed), but is there a way to toggle the white brush outlines? It's useful and I'd prefer to have it on most of the time, but sometimes I'd like to be able to turn it off to get a better idea of how things will look in game (or to see how well certain faces/textures sit with each other at the very edge, without the visual distraction). In terms of the duplicate argument I guess this is one time where I wouldn't be too opposed to a checkbox in the preferences:
[ ] Offset duplicates? Then it either offsets based on your grid settings or it doesn't. There seem to be strong opinions on each side of that one. You guys have to try the texture editing in Quark some day, because it rocks.
I also really miss the tree view of brushes and entities from it. It makes organising a map, selectively hiding or disabling parts, copy'n'pasting, mass changing things so easy. To appease rebb's brilliance and my idiocy it turns out I wasn't using his compiling tools at all, which is why it wasn't compiling func_groups properly. Sorry Rebb!
Duplication:
Maybe make the duplicated content selected and "moving" when moving the mouse. Leftclick places where it is shown, rightclick places it in the original location. Or paste it in place if the mouse cursor was on the selection. Otherwise place it at the mouse cursor. Copy/paste transform
Can you explain this a bit more? I don't quite understand what you mean. Mouse wheel resize I like the current control scheme and I think that the current way of resizing brushes is better (allows you to also change back faces). Texture flip That sounds useful - will implement this. Selecting objects If by paint select you mean "select everything touched by the mouse while holding Ctrl", then that's already on my todo list. Toggle brush outlines You can already do this in the view tab (Toggle "Render Edges"). You can switch these off, click "view" on the right and deselect "render edges"
I think if I get rid of the Duplicate command altogether and just let people use Ctrl+Drag to duplicate, that would elegantly resolve this discussion.
Texture editing will get an update in a future version where you will be able to move / rotate textures with the mouse. I also plan to add an "Align" button to the Face inspector which will align the texture to the brush edges (you can iterate through the edges by pressing the button repeatedly).
The tree view was in the Mac version of TB and it will eventually make a reappearance in this version. I'll leave it in if people want it, but I think that the most common operation is to duplicate something and then move it to another location. How is Ctrl+D + Mouse Drag more efficient than Ctrl+Mouse Drag?
SleepwalkR, the idea here is to simply copy the position of an object, allowing you to paste something to that location.
For example if you have a brush or entity at (64, 0, 128) for example, you could copy that position and then paste something to that location later (whether or not the original object is still there doesn't matter). It's useful for replacing objects sometimes, and also just to get some crap from the other side of the map to where you want to be quickly.
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