Func_Msgboard: DOOM 4 IS GOLD (OMG)!

Posted by oh, that person on 2016/05/13 01:35:14

<Daz_> two minutes until were all DOOMed
<Daz_> and Marty Stratton can let out that huge fart hes been holding in during all the promo spots

Doom 4, aka DOOM (2016), is finally out:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/379720/

Figured that a clean break might be a good idea, considering how the other thread has became monstrously huge and full of Bad Posting.

The questions at large:

- Is it a success for id, or the bitter end?
- Is the final boss a sprite of Marty Strapon's head? Or is it Willits?
- Will Friction spend another 12 years on a SnapMap?
- How many more words will it make Kinn add to his Trouser Thesaurus?
- Has than's wishlist for DOOM 4 from over 8 years ago come true?

*more enemies active at once
*better, more satisfying weapons
*COOP < most important thing
*larger environments
*more evilness
*more varied environments
*better level design
*no cutscenes
*heavier monsters used early on
*no shitty zombie commandos that can do somersaults and backflip behind cover. I don't mind the mutant ones with whip arms etc. but the regular z-sector ones were so annoying and not fun to fight.
*better AI on the more significant hellspawn creatures.
*mutant owl neck syndrome toned down
*monsters have finishing moves when they kill you, like in the first doom 3 leaked shakycam footage where the hell-knight eats the player's head. That kind of thing.
*the ability to use a flashlight and proper gun at the same time.
* No shit story involving an evil scientist. I can't believe they didn't realise how amazingly cheesy this idea was.
* Don't give it to Raven to develop.
* Properly fucking visceral weapons. Remeber the super shotgun in Doom 2? Fucks sake. Look at the weapons in Half-Life 2. Listen to the sounds they make. Take notes.

Anyway, discuss DOOM 4...

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Wugwump

#198 posted by Jago on 2016/09/23 23:05:25

Are you not aware ID took over/back the multiplayer part months ago?

#199 posted by Mugwump on 2016/09/23 23:14:26

As a matter of fact, no, I wasn't. It's Mugwump with an M, BTW. I'll shut up now.

"Killpixel Deathmatch" Mode Confirmed

#200 posted by mankrip on 2016/09/23 23:27:15

Every time you kill an opponent, a pixel in their monitor dies.

That's Bad Pr

#201 posted by killpixel on 2016/09/23 23:43:49

Interesting idea though: each kill results in an increasing negative effect. Slowing speed, enlarged head, decreasing visibilty, etc. Could be a fun casual mode.

And The Winner Gets A BSoD

#202 posted by Mugwump on 2016/09/23 23:49:49

#203 posted by Killes on 2016/09/24 11:38:08

Finally got round to playing it, enjoying the SP very much despite aforementioned shortcomings.

What about next DLC be "modability" eh ID ?

#204 posted by Killes on 2016/09/25 10:37:38

By the way I have a sad and icky feeling that modding was not made possible simply due to it not working out with the way the copy protection used for the game (denuvo) works :(

...

but now its finally cracked anyways they can drop the pretense and make it moddable eh ? :)

Denuvo Is Cracked?!?

#205 posted by Mugwump on 2016/09/25 12:20:34

WOOHOO!!!!! When did this happen? I haven't heard of it.

Denuvo Cracked...

#206 posted by Rick on 2016/09/25 13:04:15

Good. Maybe the game publishers will stop using it. No, never mind. Forget I said that. Games having DRM saves me a lot of money.

Dicknouveau

#207 posted by Killes on 2016/09/25 13:52:52

Well I am not sure if its a bunch of workarounds or a proper crack...all I know is several Denuvo games are playable sans commercial transaction, including Doom4.

Some More Info On Wiki

#208 posted by Mugwump on 2016/09/25 14:21:14

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denuvo
Check the August 2016 paragraph.

#209 posted by Mugwump on 2016/09/25 14:23:15

Sorry, I'm on my phone. You can delete the "m" from the link.

#210 posted by Killes on 2016/09/26 09:03:30

Maybe Doom4 is not as unmoddable as thought ?
https://www.reddit.com/r/DOOM2016Mods/comments/4ni6at/basic_guide_on_getting_started/

At least there are editable values which seems to be all thats really necessary to make a ammo/health balanced stagger free mod.
The stagger removal is already done as an example there, all that's needed is tweaking of health/ammo/damage to make up for the low number of health and ammo pickups.

Bah, Mods Do Not Work Since Vulkan Update

#211 posted by Killes on 2016/09/26 11:54:32

#212 posted by Killes on 2016/09/26 13:09:33

Sometime the worst part of the executions is it lowers/mutes the music :(

I don't need a break fucktards, bring it on!!

Agreed: MODS?

#213 posted by Art on 2016/10/06 20:08:23

What I'm curious about is about a mod and that will take or disable that feature (the pi�ata system) what are the possibility of MODS without a software development kit possibly by modifying the XML files. I hate you doom I upgraded my PC for you and you did me dirty. I have more fun playing brutal doom 2 on my custom build maps that this cold sore of a Doom 2016.

Yeah Doom 4 Was Pretty Ace Really....

#214 posted by Shambler on 2016/10/06 23:16:49

....just waiting for the SP DLC.

Also Waiting

#215 posted by mjb on 2016/10/06 23:26:34

Yes please.

Fixed AO Would Be Nice Too

#216 posted by killpixel on 2016/10/07 00:38:30

Doom 4 Was Super Fucking Solid

#217 posted by Drew on 2016/10/07 04:01:15

And about as close as I think we can expect to get to the classic shit we all supposedly crave in this current market....

SP DLC will be a must-buy for me.

#218 posted by Killes on 2016/10/07 07:29:04

I am enjoying it right now, although waaay too easy on UV.
It will go beyond what we can expect once(if) they unlock full modding possibilities on PC.

Already someone finding a way for the simple value editing modding to work again since last updates would make be cool.

New Doom Doc Part 3

#219 posted by killpixel on 2016/12/14 20:12:29

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0nOsuaPDeg

Pretty neat little doc IMO, not super insightful but cool.

side note: kevin cloud seems like a humble guy. in every interview I've seen with him he's owning up to poor decisions or mistakes he's made (doom3 making of and part 2 of this doc). It appears that the leaked 'call of doom' stuff was cloud's vision for the game at the time.

Doom Documentary

#220 posted by FifthElephant on 2016/12/14 21:52:56

is a good little series. I wish we could get more of this stuff, it's fascinating to get insight into the games industry.

Also I think this documentary has given me a lot of hope for id's future. I really can't wait to see their next game.

Same Here

#221 posted by killpixel on 2016/12/15 00:59:33

in addition, I'd like to see more in-depth/technical behind the scenes stuff. It seems making-ofs are approached as more of a marketing tool these days, so they can be a bit shallow sometimes.

Quake Photo Mode?

#222 posted by dumptruck_ds on 2016/12/15 21:44:29

Okay I have not tried Doom's photo mode but I was wondering if something like this could be done in a source port? Would be great to re-cam demos and grab screenshots with different lense options and depth of field tweaks. I know you can do this is Photoshop but this would be so amazing in Quake.

Article on photo mode

YT vid

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