#193 posted by JneeraZ on 2015/11/24 11:06:07
OSX has Sublime, TextWrangler, BBEdit - and that's just off the top of my head not having used a Mac in several years. Text editing is something that's well handled.
What?
#194 posted by Bill Gatez on 2015/11/24 13:38:31
How about Windows requiring you to select files before you can right-click them?
Unless you mean something else than I think you do that has worked as long as I can remember?
Can you even pin windows to the front?
Seems to be up to the app or use of external software.
Text Editors
on Linux - i can edit my fstab with Libre Office, cough.
Actually, i did try out Libre Office for the first time. Straight away i noticed nasty, stupid bugs i'd never seen on Open Office. So it smells like shitware to me. ??
I tried out a few old boxes this week. Win95/Cyrix laptop - shutdown to an "illegal instruction" message.
And found a copy of my Fedora 7 (on my backup tower with an overclocked E5200) with it's super snappy kde-3.5. Yay <3
LibreOffice
I like it better than OpenOffice on OS X, at least. But it doesn't really matter, since they're all shit.
Libre Seems Fine.
#197 posted by xaGe on 2015/11/27 11:09:25
Never had a problem the bit I need to use it. What are these, "bugs"? No worse than of the other free office suites.
There's So Many Text Editors..
#198 posted by xaGe on 2015/11/27 11:14:14
..on Linux then you would ever need. I usually just use geany.
#199 posted by anonymous user on 2015/11/27 14:43:59
Yeah - on linux the IDEs are just as crappy as most other stuff - everyone has to use vim/etc and man pages. IDEs are so complicated - a serious investment in resources on both sides.
Had to take my Yamaha sound card out cause QS wouldnt work on Mint17/drive-me-crazy-F-ing-Pulse-Audio. But no diff anyway since my TCL amplifier blew up and i'm using $20 logitech speakers now.
Hey
Geany looks ok
I almost have my new OS sorted.
But fmd, it took me *ages* to find where gzdoom had saved my games so i could continue them. ... Alongside a few other ground-breaking apps in $HOME/.config/ Hey - why not just follow 50 years of unix common-use and put them in .gzdoom (where it once was) you freaking idiots. Laugh.
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/GNOME
As much as I appreciate the work that goes into keeping Linux as relevant as possible I really fail to see why anyone would adopt Linux other than to just mess around.
I actually bought a rasperry pi, messed about with Linux for a few weeks and now it's collecting dust.
#203 posted by mh on 2015/12/02 20:53:52
Linux on a server is a very valid proposition, but one must be wary of the tendency to think that "Linux is good for a certain very specific type of server, so therefore it must be equally as good for all other types too".
Linux on a desktop is barmy. It will never happen because the Linux community is too fragmented, whereas a single vision is needed to dominate the desktop. Distro wars, editor wars, source control wars, brace style wars - the Linux community will tear itself apart with infighting sooner than succeed.
It can't be a coincidence that the one place where Linux (in the strictest definition, i.e the kernel) has been successful is in the mobile space, where Google had the vision to rip the user-hostility and Unix-isms out of the interface, and the corporate muscle to put it out there and market it properly.
"corporate Muscle"
#204 posted by adib on 2015/12/02 22:32:22
is the kind of statement that makes me sad. I mean, people not in charge of any corporation helping to validate such mindset.
#205 posted by Spirit on 2015/12/02 22:40:49
If you are using Linux like the typical Mac user (5 programs), it works pretty fucking great for anyone.
Yeah, Right
Unless you a laptop, in which case you'll have half the battery life and constantly spinning fans. And of course god help you if you decide to use a recent driver for your video card because you'd like to play a game or something.
I have really tried to like Linux on the desktop because I'm getting fed up by Apple's policies, but it's just not usable for me, and if someone like me cannot use a Linux system without major hassle (like editing various config files and restoring broken drivers), then I highly doubt the "typical Mac user" could, and in particular if god forbid they'd like to run it on their Mac computers.
#207 posted by Spirit on 2015/12/02 23:23:05
That sounds like a terribly misconfigured system. What's the problem with drivers? Nvidia and Intel have good support afaik. Maybe the Mac hardware actually is the problem in your case? No idea if apple or their part manufacturers release drivers for Linux.
You can buy preconfigured laptops, maybe that fits the mac stereotype better? I meant mom/dad types. I did not mean installing and configuring it.
I'm fairly competent with PC's (having around 25 years experience) but Linux is just ridiculous. Sometimes it feels obtuse for the sake of it.
That's Just How Operating Systems Are
#209 posted by Spirit on 2015/12/02 23:37:48
#210 posted by Rick on 2015/12/03 00:07:51
If Linux is ever going to have a chance as a desktop OS, now is the time.
Windows 10 has way too many privacy and security issues, which along with Microsoft's apparent belief that they should own your computer, means that many people are sticking with Windows 7 (or even 8, lol).
However, "support" for Windows 7 will eventually go away. Officially there's only 5 years left and there's not a lot of other options.
#211 posted by Lunaran on 2015/12/03 01:45:02
That sounds like a terribly misconfigured system.
Maybe the Mac hardware actually is the problem in your case?
That's just how operating systems are.
This is the armor that has protected linux attitudes for ages. It's always your fault.
Exactly.
Laptops
and acpi are pretty tough cookies. I read an article about it - that -somethinglike- the ACPI spec is wrong and windows does all these hacks to make it work.
Linux Is Crap
But it's a rock, and i love it.
> Whenever I read things like this, I'm glad I use twm.
Pfft. I manage my windows with a nine volt battery, a paperclip and a steady hand
https://www.jwz.org/blog/2011/10/has-gnome-3-decided-that-people-shouldnt-want-screen-savers/
#215 posted by JneeraZ on 2015/12/03 10:50:20
"This is the armor that has protected linux attitudes for ages. It's always your fault. "
Haha, nice. Was going to post the same thing.
--Linux : It's always YOUR fault--
Ah Yes, And "Apple Stuff Just Works"
#216 posted by Spirit on 2015/12/03 11:20:09
My point was that installing a OS to random hardware sucks. Windows, Linux, does not matter. I have had more trouble with power and fan control on Windows in the past. MacOS is bound to specific hardware so out of scope.
You can buy pre-configured, Linux-tailored laptops. That's the equivalent of a macbook.
Enjoy Windows 10 everyone.
#217 posted by JneeraZ on 2015/12/03 11:35:30
Well, since all the software I need to get actual work done is on Windows, I have little choice in the matter.
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