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This game deserves its own thread for sure.

Post your impressions please. (but no spoilers, or use warnings).

How it stands, compared to other Quakes and Doom3

What about MP?

Tell us how it runs on your ti4200 or r9600
(6800+ owners dont bother please)
etc
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Q4 
I liked it quite a lot, but I think it is a fair criticism. The vehicle parts were shoe-horned in and the whole thing was totally on rails - unlike the more exploratory feeling hub system of Q2 itself. The general Q2 vibe was good, as were the monsters, it did seem to be a case of modern "interactive movie" gaming spoiling the fun of simple old gaming. But still good IMO. 
Ijed 
Worth buying as a budget title, yes.

Worth playing -

yes, for the few really good levels, and for educational purposes.

It's a fast playthrough, too. Two evenings max.

Thief is worthy, so is Tomb Raider 2. 
 
Quake 4 is nice. I played 1-2 weeks. The vehicle sequences suck badly. Much better than Q2 to me. Best plain scifi FPS since Half-Life (I guess) for me. 
 
And I played it 2 times since. 
I Found Quake 4 
to be an excellent compromise between Old School shooty fun and New School gimmickry [vehicles/scripted moments/etc]. I think if Raven had taken it fully in to the 21st Century it would have lost its Quakeyness. 
 
I have it for the 360. It's boring as all hell. I can't get into it. The maps are small and the vehicle thing is lame at best.

It had potential but Raven dropped the ball on this one. 
 
I like scripted sequences, like a marine getting his head smashed into a window by a Strogg. That's cool with me. But you can have scripted sequences in a less linear game, too. 
 
I sometimes prefer linearity, sometimes not.

I tend to finish linear games much rather. Never finished Fallout, Fallout 2 and Albion. Even though they are great games, I could not finish them by not knowing how to proceed.

Quake 4 is a nice game for people who like straight FPS. 
I'm Also 
a fan of supposed 'linearity' in games. In my experience non-linear games tend to be full of quite boring missions that involve lots of walking to and from fairly arbitrary locations to pick up items or kill copy/pasted enemies. Fair enough, maybe you can choose which mission to do at any given time, but seeing as most of the time all of the missions are boring/repetitive/pointless, I'd much rather have one long exciting mission that will hold my attention for the duration of the game. 
Finished It ! 
Well, the game is pretty descent: there are very good visuals here and there, nice gameplay, but the game improves itself after stroggification.

The end battle in the nexus is quite easy when you have understood what to do... and that you can simply ignore the monsters at the bootom, and just get rid of the others onto the platform... I was expecting something harder...

Anyway, overaal, the game is good. If I have to rate it I would give it 16/20... (I would compare it to Doom3, with more lights :P )

Now I have to buy a new PC if I want to play new games (L4D, QuakeLive, etc...) 
QuakeLive 
shouldn't really requite a new computer, ts just quake 3 kinda and made browserfied 
Linearity 
non-linear games tend to be full of quite boring missions

That may be the case if the actual game-mechanics suck and it isn't even fun to do stuff in the world. 
 
I�m playing Q4 at the moment and i�m having great fun also :) loved the part when we were defeated and tranformed in half men half strog... the rail gun is a fun blast :p 
 
That may be the case if the actual game-mechanics suck and it isn't even fun to do stuff in the world.

I'd love some examples. For my part, I guess I've only played the very mainstream 'non-linear' games, like GTA, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Boiling Point, etc. all of which have a few very good missions, diluted by hundreds of dull "follow this NPC without getting spotted" or "kill twenty rats" ones. 
 
Just finish the game today!!!

The Nexus :) nice ending!!!

I enjoy the game a lot, but i still prefer old stile games, with swards and medieval stuff

Not worth to waste my time for map for it� but is much better then Q2 
 
Just finish the game today!!!

The Nexus :) nice ending!!!

I enjoy the game a lot, but i still prefer old stile games, with swards and medieval stuff

Not worth to waste my time for map for it� but is much better then Q2 
 
double post suck hard :\ 
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