Had a good session in OpenCanvas with a friend today and we did the following drawings together. They're comic-representations of ourselves, Tam & Micki! where we usually reference various games;

TAM & Micki! goes S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
TAM & Micki! goes RAGE
TAM & Micki! goes APB 

lol 

fiends insta-killing/gibbing you when they land on your head - bug or feature? 

 

...is not worth bothering with. It's like 10 years old or something?
The latest version that was used inhouse though was pure sex. 

 

Make sure you fix it for spawns and dogs too! Spawn insta-killed me in Saint : - ( 

I am pretty sure that anything living dies if shambler sits on it.

I am torn. I kinda like the instant severe death but it sure is frustrating since it happens rarely and usually completely unexpected. if it happened more regularly I would definitely consider it a feature.

leave it in and let people embrace quake's revolutionary innovative unlimited save-as-you-like feature. 

How would one go about fixing it anyway?
What about some sort of max_damage value for those monster classes? 

��String, or nothing!�� shrieked Gollum, Hermes handbags 

I always laugh at this shit. So much effort to peddle Louis Vuitton bags, do they not realise that there's like 10 people coming to this site and they all have dicks?

Unless of course some of you are Chinese women and neglected to mention it! 

Well, surprisingly enough... <pulls off wig> 

You need some kind of flag on the monster so that when it does damage during a jump, the flag gets set. The monster then will not do damage on further collisions until the flag is cleared when the monster lands again. 

I'm pretty sure all you need to add is one line: self.touch = SUB_Null; just after the T_Damage call in Demon_JumpTouch

Anyway...I'm actually tempted to leave it in, remembering a beautiful moment when playing the N64 port of Quake as a kid - that one fiend guarding the entrance to the Wizard's Manse pushed my shit in about five times in a row (I wasn't very good at dodging back then). That little dude rightfully earned my fear and respect, and I'd feel a bit bad about treading on his memory.

Bleh I dunno, I need to fix it prolly 'cos there's dogs in my map which almost always land on my head and I don't wanna move 'em really. Doesn't really make sense to fix for just dogs and not the other monsters. 

id may have left it in so they wouldn't have to deal with the resulting problem ... now there's a monster on your head. What happens? :) 

good point :)

Although looking at the code, it does a check to make the monster jump again if it detects it's landed on problematic ground (loosely speaking) - I would have expected id to have made it also jump off if it lands on another monster/player - but the function seems to exit in that case in a way that makes me think they didn't really account for it. 

Not just an .exe file? I downloaded it yesterday because I was a friends and mentioned czg and Scampie's new maps, thought I'd show him the Quake Injector.

Basically I spend half an hour dicking around and couldn't get it working at all.

Does it support Windows? 

It supports Windows. You have to have Java runtime installed though.

I also wish it was an EXE ... and that it would remember the sort order I set. I can't believe it doesn't do that. :) 

Add self.attack_finished = time + 0.5; and then return if time < self.attack_finished.
That way it wouldn't be insta-death because you touch every frame, but it would still hurt more than usual?

Maybe that would make it even worse, if it makes the fiend hang around in the air for longer.

How about doing some maths to see if it's the bottom of the fiend that's touching, and then do something based on that? Maybe pushing the player away could be interesting... 

too dumb to read the readme file or the website? :)


willem: .exe would be great, we could not find anything good to do this though. 

It works a charm on my computer, actually, just tested it. My friend said he had Java, but he was obviously mistaken. 

the first thing is a cool suggestion czg but as you say the fiend would still hang around on the player head in the same jump pose. I reckon i'll just extend the "jump again if on broken ground" check to also make it jump again if it lands on other characters.

As for pushing the player away - if it pushes the player off a ledge... might be just as annoying, but that would probably be a rare case. 

As if they were Winrar files on his computer. Which was weird, because when you open a jar file with winrar, you can see all of the source files of the project. And access them.