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#tf / Func_qmap BEEF Thread.
Inspired by Scampie who has more beef going than the average American "lite" breakfast =).

So let's have it out here...

Scampie vs. Xen

Scampie vs. ProdXL

Maj vs. ProdXL

(actually most people vs. ProdXL)

Wrath vs. Everyone

Grindspire vs. someone it seems

Me vs. Speedy occasionally

Mod-makers vs. well they just look like a right bunch of knobs anyway.

etc.
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Haha! 
So Spirit does still read Func_, after all... 
#188 
Fair beans. 
Baker, OTP, Your Time: 
 
 
The beef has been very juicy lately. I can appreciate that when I read during my morning commute. Hope the salt levels stay in check though... 
Yeah, However 
"Your opinion on (X) is invalid because you've made less content than (Y)" is real low-rent stuff chaps. Come on, you're better than this. I want to see some proper top-shelf quality beef, with both sides giving it some, punctuated by Shambler slapping down some of his patented stone-cold truth bombs every now and then. I've got my popcorn ready and everything. 
I Was Trying To Get Some Discussion Going 
I was hoping to create an edgy thread that got people talking about innnovation, sharing stories. I intentionally baited some.

Looks like I was too edgy and a bit too trolley -- although I was going more for the humor angle --- like my preposterous list of things that a reply had to consider --- I mean seriously, haha ;-)

But that humor doesn't translate well to the written word, especially without emoji :-)

Happens to the best of us! My intentions were good.

On the plus side, I am proud I was able to create a thread too controversial for Func ;-)

How many times has that happened --- ever!! 
Callout Post 
I'm officially starting beef with Baker for using those goddamn hyphens in his "emoji".

;) > ;-) 
 
That entire post is just more self serving bullshit dude. Give it a rest. 
:-( 
 
 
Not you pritchard. We cool we cool. 
:--) 
 
 
Well in any case, I'm glad to hear that Marcher 2: Even Marcherer is due out sometime this year. :) 
@mukor 
Feel free to try to ascribe negative motivations to me as you would like. I'm assuming you enjoy wasting your time, it's yours to spend. ;-)

I like starting controversially named threads or disruptive posts for the shock factor or to get people talking.

Sometimes, I have struck gold --- a very provocative rant about Quake 3 vs. Quake 1 mapping created some shockwaves that caused several very cool things to happen.

All just by typing words on a keyboard, haha. 
#202 
Well in any case, I'm glad to hear that Marcher 2: Even Marcherer is due out sometime this year. :)

??? 
@mukor - Also ... 
It is, in fact, a number of the works for Quake were done for resume enhancements/hopes of gaming jobs and other reasons beyond Quake.

I thought that would make an interesting angle for discussion.

Because more than a fair number of level designers here worked/did work/wanted to work professionally in that field.

It was a significant factor in the creation in a number of prominent works in the past --- where the creators were mapping "for Quake" but they were aiming "for something more".

Are those kinds of level designers with enhanced motivations more likely to try to *really showoff* their talent more than someone new and bored who downloaded a map editor? 
@mukor -- I May As Well Triple Post ... 
Also another sub-theme of the topic ...

Steam newbies or bored people who downloaded a map editor --- they don't really have any detailed knowledge of the history of Quake.

I mentioned FrikaC who is one of the most influential developers of all time -- since I perceive you to be rather new, he was the author of FrikBots and frikqcc Quake C compiler. He also went on to work in the games industry.

But more than that -- like I said, I perceive you to be rather new but it may or may not be the case ---

But if it is the case that you are new, and unfamiliar with the history of Quake or how external motivations may have shaped the game ...

Should conversation topics be dumbbed down to cater to your level of knowledge of the history of Quake?

So there is a question for you ... 
Keep Digging Baker ;-) 
 
:---) 
Not even locking his thread can stop the juggernaut that is Baker! 
 
It is, in fact, a number of the works for Quake were done for resume enhancements/hopes of gaming jobs and other reasons beyond Quake.

I thought that would make an interesting angle for discussion.


Are those kinds of level designers with enhanced motivations more likely to try to *really showoff* their talent more than someone new and bored who downloaded a map editor?

Isnt it a given that those with more experience or a larger end goal in mind, are going to put more effort into something than those who just recently downloaded a map editor?

It seems part of your goal here was to get me to speak of myself in a way that was self serving.

"Ive been mapping for *this long*"

"Ive played Quake for *this long*"

None of that even matters in this context. All the info one wants about Quake is freely available on the internet. Theres countless documentaries, threads on forums, and articles on Quake to fill in whatever type of Quake knowledge one seeks to acquire. 
 
meant to preview but accidentally posted. Honestly, though, thats probably for the better.

Long story short: Its obvious you havent played my maps or read the readmes attached to them. Meanwhile, I have MarkV pinned to my taskbar and read every post on the recent MarkV thread.

So, thanks man. Really appreciate the sense of comradery you have! 
 
"Its obvious you havent played my maps or read the readmes attached to them."

Before you think IM being self serving and trying to say "If you played them youd see my skillzzzzz brooo"

But a "You didnt have anything substantial to say about my mapping or me so its obvious you didnt even touch em" 
FFS Baker 
Are you high? OTP and Mukor both called you out for your bullshit. It's about time you'd shut the hell up. 
This Is Vintage Baker 
Also vintage otp. 
 
On the subject of vintage Baker:

http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=60370

Here he is in 2009 enjoying the economic crisis! 
 
Is it just me, or is this particular beef seeming quite vengeful? 
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