I didn't like the movement, but there was still great level design in there.

Overall I'd say the game design was the only part off-kilter, although thats also the most important.

I remember the power station and warehouse as being very good.

ReMakeQuake2..? :) 

They sorta dropped the ball on forcing the order of placing the cubes instead of making it open ended. 

movement in q2 is weird... for example, it's possible to slide, almost out of control, down a very gentle slope.
noticed that a few times in spogsp1.
also, if you mantle up when jumping against a low ledge, you conserve your horizontal momentum, which can send you flying out of window or somesuch. very strange decisions were made when the physics were coded up. 

You need a project to apply insights like that to. 

I liked Q2 physics. It was a bit softer than Q1, like hitting edges and stuff, and the double jump bug, but I still liked it in it's own way. 

the thing i mentioned about the mantling/conserving momentum... i think that has to do with the hitting edges and double jump stuff...

because it'll treat the ledge as a step so you keep moving forward, but the ledge is thin, so you end up flying right out a window... i dunno, it's hard for me to explain. :P 

I love bunny hopping, so I dislike Quake 2 heh. It feels like a more stiff version of Quake 3 going back to it. 

I love bunny hopping, so I dislike Quake 2 heh.

bunny hopping in q2 is a piece of piss. actually more effective than in q1 too due to the aforementioned weird physics (you maintain more momentum when landing) 

it's only more effective in straight lines. you can't jump round a corner in q2, which is where q1 physics quirks prevail :) 

Alright peeps, off to tanazania. I expect some releases in my absence :) 

Bunny hopping != strafe jumping (: 

i'll stick my hands up and say i don't know what the difference is :Z 

Bunnyhopping is just repeated strafejumping, using the initial maintenance of increased speed when you first hit the ground after a jump. 

Bunny hopping: Holding a strafe button only and turning to get air control (and some accel)

Strafe jumping: Holding strafe and forward and holding the mouse at the right angle to accelerate.

Perhaps I should say air control then :p

Only game that truly has both is CPMA. 

never been able to perform neither BH nor SJ

maybe i'm just suck 

Bunny hopping: Holding a strafe button only and turning to get air control (and some accel)

Strafe jumping: Holding strafe and forward to accelerate.

Circle jumping: Holding strafe and forward and moving the mouse at the right speed the correct angle to accelerate even more (only works for the first jump). 

In Quake 1, monkeying around in the air makes you go faster than pure strafe jumping. Basically turning = acceleration. Q1 bunny = using air control to accelerate, switching strafe/turn direction in midair. Netquake requires you to use the Forward key as well.

In Q2/Q3 it's more of a continuous strafing as far as I remember, changing strafe only occasionally to keep your general direction.

Technically a strafe jump is any jump where you strafe while in the air, though.

The term bunny hop just means hopping repeatedly, I think. 

The term bunny hop just means hopping repeatedly, I think.
It does now when people talk about games like CoD or Halo where people just bounce for no reason.

In Quake/oldie Half-Life and TFC/CPMA/Warsow it is a specific combination of mouse movement holding a strafe button into the turn to maintain speed through corners.

Also the air control in Painkiller is nothing like it either really. S'why PK's movement sucks :P 

http://www.quaddicted.com/tronyn-reviews/fortress_of_resurrection_by_loke
http://www.quaddicted.com/tronyn-reviews/rmq_winter_2011_demo_by_rmq_team 

U are too kind :) 

http://www.daz3d.com/i/products/daz_studio3/ 

 

By Necros

http://youtu.be/tiDb7ZMk9BI

Awesome atmosphere, forgot how great this map was :) Thx Necros! 

thanks for the playthrough! :)
i'm glad i put in that anti-death system... saved you twice against those shamblers. ^_^; 

I KNEW IT! :D

I thought I was just the luckiest guy in the universe :P

<Daz_> does ne_ruins have some strange thing where you cannot die or something? I got hit down to 1hp on two different occasions and was amazed I survived :)
<worktore_> The answer to that question is necros.
<Daz_> well that was very illuminating
<Daz_> :D
<worktore_> I can personally guarantee that it is possible to die in ne_ruins. :\
<Daz_> I must have been the luckiest guy in the world then, twice, on the same run :D
<Daz_> fuck the odds, I am awesome
<worktore_> Add sunglasses. All skill!
<worktore_> ...
<Shitbler> daz when i've watched your demos you do seem to have some sort of innate survival talent
<Shitbler> combined with a general air of unobservant spastication that makes it all the more impressive