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DOOM 4 IS GOLD (OMG)!
<Daz_> two minutes until were all DOOMed
<Daz_> and Marty Stratton can let out that huge fart hes been holding in during all the promo spots

Doom 4, aka DOOM (2016), is finally out:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/379720/

Figured that a clean break might be a good idea, considering how the other thread has became monstrously huge and full of Bad Posting.

The questions at large:

- Is it a success for id, or the bitter end?
- Is the final boss a sprite of Marty Strapon's head? Or is it Willits?
- Will Friction spend another 12 years on a SnapMap?
- How many more words will it make Kinn add to his Trouser Thesaurus?
- Has than's wishlist for DOOM 4 from over 8 years ago come true?

*more enemies active at once
*better, more satisfying weapons
*COOP < most important thing
*larger environments
*more evilness
*more varied environments
*better level design
*no cutscenes
*heavier monsters used early on
*no shitty zombie commandos that can do somersaults and backflip behind cover. I don't mind the mutant ones with whip arms etc. but the regular z-sector ones were so annoying and not fun to fight.
*better AI on the more significant hellspawn creatures.
*mutant owl neck syndrome toned down
*monsters have finishing moves when they kill you, like in the first doom 3 leaked shakycam footage where the hell-knight eats the player's head. That kind of thing.
*the ability to use a flashlight and proper gun at the same time.
* No shit story involving an evil scientist. I can't believe they didn't realise how amazingly cheesy this idea was.
* Don't give it to Raven to develop.
* Properly fucking visceral weapons. Remeber the super shotgun in Doom 2? Fucks sake. Look at the weapons in Half-Life 2. Listen to the sounds they make. Take notes.


Anyway, discuss DOOM 4...
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Yeah Same Here 
Fuckers. 
The Patch 
is 14,07gb on PS4, heh 
Two New Multiplayer Modes 
neither of which is deathmatch. neat.

the constant crash to desktop is fixed now, so that's sweet. big gold star from me. 
Warren Huart Interviews Mick Gordon 
Warren Huart is an awesome producer with a great channel that's really worth checking out if you're into audio production.

the interview 
All-Inclusive Safe-Space Simulator 2016 
a.k.a. Doom 2016 Multiplayer

I've been sick and stuck at home the past week and decided to give multiplayer a real go with as much of an open mind as I could muster. Hell, I even paid $15 for the emaciated DLC "Unto the Evil" before diving in. BIG FUCKING MISTAKE. After several days of hardcore playtime I have concluded that, in its current state, the Doom 2016 multiplayer is complete fucking shit.

Who exactly is going to be playing this a year from now? The target demo is going to hit puberty soon and will move on to something else. The next generation of plebs aren't going to play it as they'll be busy with the next big bubblegum shooter queefed out by some other corporate whore.

As I sit in a chatless lobby perusing generic armor sets while waiting for my allotment of xXxAnimeKid2003xXxes to carry all game long, or as I dominate the opposing team with over-fucking-powered demon runes and BFGs, I can help but sit back and marvel at what a sad fucking joke this game is.

Nice work, way to drop the fucking ball.

Time for me to uninstall and go back to being apathetic. Maybe I'll give it another go when the $15 deathmatch DLC comes out.

/rant

P.S. I promise this is the last time I rez this thread.

P.S.S. Please excuse my language. 
Wait A Minute... 
Doom4 has multiplayer??

Oh wait, there was some menu option in between "Continue Campaign" and "Customise Options", wasn't there?? Can't remember what it was tho.... 
Q3DM17 In Doom 
Pretty impressive stuff, made with Snapmap -

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/snapmap/89967-hello-old-friend/ 
Free Update #3 
ID had ONE SIMPLE TASK to do to make Doom fans happy: not fuck up the Deathmatch mode and yet theyu managed to do precisely that - what the hell are Loadouts doing in it?! What did ID spend months of time on if not tweaking weapon pickup locations in all the current maps?!

And why do I _STILL_ have to first wait for singleplayer to load, then MORE WAITING for multiplayer to load, why is it still impossible to select the default start up mode?

Oh well, back to Paragon and Overwatch, I guess... 
194 
If you're using steam: make a shortcut to doom, import it as a none-steam game and rename it to "multiplayer" and set a launch option to launch in my mode. 
*MP, Not "my" 
 
Jago 
Are you not aware that id did NOT develop the multiplayer part? This was outsourced to a studio that worked on Halo and CoD. 
Wugwump 
Are you not aware ID took over/back the multiplayer part months ago? 
 
As a matter of fact, no, I wasn't. It's Mugwump with an M, BTW. I'll shut up now. 
"Killpixel Deathmatch" Mode Confirmed 
Every time you kill an opponent, a pixel in their monitor dies. 
That's Bad Pr 
Interesting idea though: each kill results in an increasing negative effect. Slowing speed, enlarged head, decreasing visibilty, etc. Could be a fun casual mode. 
And The Winner Gets A BSoD 
 
 
Finally got round to playing it, enjoying the SP very much despite aforementioned shortcomings.

What about next DLC be "modability" eh ID ? 
 
By the way I have a sad and icky feeling that modding was not made possible simply due to it not working out with the way the copy protection used for the game (denuvo) works :(

...

but now its finally cracked anyways they can drop the pretense and make it moddable eh ? :) 
Denuvo Is Cracked?!? 
WOOHOO!!!!! When did this happen? I haven't heard of it. 
Denuvo Cracked... 
Good. Maybe the game publishers will stop using it. No, never mind. Forget I said that. Games having DRM saves me a lot of money. 
Dicknouveau 
Well I am not sure if its a bunch of workarounds or a proper crack...all I know is several Denuvo games are playable sans commercial transaction, including Doom4. 
Some More Info On Wiki 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denuvo
Check the August 2016 paragraph. 
 
Sorry, I'm on my phone. You can delete the "m" from the link. 
 
Maybe Doom4 is not as unmoddable as thought ?
https://www.reddit.com/r/DOOM2016Mods/comments/4ni6at/basic_guide_on_getting_started/

At least there are editable values which seems to be all thats really necessary to make a ammo/health balanced stagger free mod.
The stagger removal is already done as an example there, all that's needed is tweaking of health/ammo/damage to make up for the low number of health and ammo pickups. 
Bah, Mods Do Not Work Since Vulkan Update 
 
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