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My name is Infje, I�m new here. Well not really, because I�ve been lurking here for years, but now I�m a registered user. I came to this community to ask you for a bit of your time. I�m working on a study about what made the original Quake so great? If you look around, it still has a dedicated following even though the game is more than 15 years old. That says a lot about the game and it�s fan. I think the SP part is hard to classify. I remember reading that the team had creative differences, that it was originally intended to be an RPG and that there never was a design document. When the engine was finally finished, they threw in some Doom like weapons, polished the maps they had and released it. Or so I�ve read. Which resulted in a game that consists of mixed elements. There was no real story, unless you had read the small introduction in the readme file. But the game itself never really explained anything. Personally, I missed out on the MP since I hadn�t had Internet back then. But we all know it was quite a phenomenon. The obvious things are easy to name: Full 3D world, Multiplayer, DM, Clans, etc. But for me, since I missed out on the MP, Quake was all about the Lovecraftian horror, the traps, the secrets and the underwater passages. Nowadays many shooters only use water as a showcase, but back then, you could swim and explore. I really miss that. This study is for my personal records. I like to look back on the things I enjoyed and get a better understanding of why it worked and better yet, would it still work now? Carmack hinted at going back to the original Quake but I wonder how you could create something new that still feels the same. If you�re willing to share your views, please reply to this thread so I can take them into account. If it�s not appropriate for me to post this, feel free to delete it. Thank you, Infje thing in other countries, or at least attempting to. It's a dispute over patents. Who knows whose claims are rightful.
I think Quake worked out better with the "frustrated" Romero.
All the stuff they were talking about wouldn't have given us the Cthulhu Mythos mixed with fantasy that made it such a weird game. I like the mix of settings, the hazy way in which they're linked. It gives the game it's atmosphere. Less is more kind of thing. This is why I dislike mods that add things like cutscenes and dialogue. Nothing cuts up the strange, lonely atmosphere more for me than that (I think scripted elements aren't a problem though, as they don't take you out of the character, and if done well make the world feel more dynamic). They did screw up the weapon balance though :P Also the gameplay of Quake and Doom has yet to be recaptured which is another reason both games remain on my computer at all times. The mixture of arcade combat, weird and varied monsters and complex 3D environments is awesome.
You might be interested in this: http://lunaran.com/page.php?id=200
To me, it was atmosphere. As a kid, it was very easy to lose myself in the gloomy nightmare world that id made with Quake. It was very engrossing - it was mysterious, it was frightening, and it had a lot of little details like swamp/wind sounds and imposing architecture. The monsters were psychotic, I remember the first time I saw a fiend, it scared the SHIT out of me. Not literally, but it was really scary. Vores, too. Damn those things blew my mind.
The gameplay is alright, but really it's the imaginative, frightening, tense atmosphere. That's some excellent feedback guys. Keep it coming. I especially like the link to Lunaran his site, I never thought about it that way. But it does make a lot of sense.
It's fast and evil
You can tell they had fun making it, despite all the various interviews and so on claiming otherwise. spreading tabloid crap from a disgusting gawker media spam site is not rumor control, it is supporting such rumors. they pay their editors based on pageviews, so the more controversy and links the better. please do not link to gawker media.
Tomorrow (today...) it's 7 years that I run a Quake website. I kinda want to launch the new Quaddicted now but it is in a rather sorry state. If you think you might be interested in giving random feedback or even be willing to help out, go visit www2. (and ignore links that point to www.). Feedback is welcome in the forum there (no registration needed), per mail to me or here. Any kind of feedback really but if you write an essay on some small cosmetic things it might be a waste of your time. There are many things to do...
Existing user accounts should work. If not, tell me. Wiki and forum posts will be kept, but no changes/tags/ratings in the map system. Infje,
Please, take Spirits criticism with a grain of salt. Ask him who his previous sponsors have been. There was nothing wrong with what you did. No need to apologize. Seeing as everyone is bashing 7zip, I will stand up for it.
How hard is this? - 1 - Right-click on the archive. 2 - Click '7Zip' on the drop down menu. 3 - Click on 'Open Archive'. Really terrible and sooo difficult, I think I'm gonna go and cry about it........ |
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