Fteqcc.exe
#2060 posted by necros on 2016/02/14 04:32:28
Any way to disable this: warning: Model progs/clutter/bookclos.mdl was used but not precached
I'm using Preach's wrapper that magically fixes this problem, but now fteqcc yells at me for being clever. :(
#2061 posted by Spike on 2016/02/14 05:04:10
you mean other than this?
precache_model("progs/clutter/bookclos.mdl");
Note that you can also use this, for instance:
precache_model((self.mdl = "progs/clutter/bookclos.mdl"));
yup, assignments in function calls are evil, but it will do the right thing, and only need the mdl named once (you could also make some macro, eg preset_mdl).
And of course, if you just want to hit it with a sledgehammer instead of playing whackamole:
#pragma warning disable F210
note that doing so will of course hide any other instances (which may be more significant).
you can use this method to disable any warning that fteqcc gives a code for, but you run the risk of shooting yourself in the foot if you just disable everything, so use with caution.
Thanks
#2062 posted by necros on 2016/02/14 05:13:18
doesn't seem to work though? where do I put the #pragma line? I tried in defs.qc (the first file in progs.src) and also in one of the files where I get this warning, but neither had any effect. I also tried #pragma warning off F210 from here: http://fte.triptohell.info/wiki/index.php?title=Precompiler_definitions&action=edit
btw, preach's trick is thus:
void(entity e, string m) setmodel_builtin = #3;
//preach's wrapper function for setmodel!
void(entity e, string m) setmodel =
{
if(framecount == 0)
{
if(m != "")
precache_model(m);
}
setmodel_builtin(e, m);
};
which neatly stops you from ever having the problem!
Ahhh Pardon Me
#2063 posted by necros on 2016/02/14 05:15:26
that mod folder had an ancient copy of fteqcc. :P
all good now, I think.. thanks!
#2064 posted by necros on 2016/02/14 05:18:54
oh... btw, warning F304: unary-not applies to non-unary expression
I liked the warning in the old version where it just told you warning: You may wish to add brackets after that ! operator.
#2065 posted by Spike on 2016/02/14 05:40:07
seems that warning only got a code in revision in july, hence why its not present in the warning message you gave.
you'll need to update your copy of fteqcc if you want to blanket-disable that warning.
alternatively, because the warning is generated regardless of whether setmodel is a builtin or a qc wrapper, you can just do:
#define setmodel setmodel_spanishinquisition
#define precache_model precache_model_omgninja
before your builtin/wrapper definitions.
of course, that hack won't stop you from ever having the problem, and implies that you'll be lazy and forget the cases where it won't work as expected - ie: outside of initial spawn functions.
even fte+dp will display a warning if you setmodel without precaching first, despite them both supporting precaches any time (there may be some edge cases in dp regarding bsp models, iiuc).
either way, triggering auto-downloads mid-map is bad. hurrah for PREcaching.
#2066 posted by Spike on 2016/02/14 05:54:12
regarding unary-not, !a&b always looked wrong to me, as a C programmer. The brackets don't change anything, but they do clarify things for people more familiar with C operator precendence. :P
Cache Miss
#2067 posted by Preach on 2016/02/14 09:45:38
of course, that hack won't stop you from ever having the problem, and implies that you'll be lazy and forget the cases where it won't work as expected - ie: outside of initial spawn functions.
If you've forgotten to precache a model you need, you're screwed either way. What it does is threefold:
1) Allows for external model files in e.g. func_wall (and since you can't know from the QC if the model will be "*10" or "progs/cog_lrg1.bsp", precaching everything that comes through just in case is the only safe way).
2) Permits you to reuse a spawn function which you've already called at the start of the map to create a fresh instance of e.g. a monster mid-game. This is a Don't Repeat Yourself principle thing.
3) Makes spawn function code a little bit shorter and tidier
The part 3 on the end there is more of a bonus, not the point of the code.
#2068 posted by necros on 2016/02/14 15:31:34
thanks, spike! just picked up the most recent version (feb 11 2016)!
#2069 posted by necros on 2016/02/14 15:34:57
note: suppressed 262 more warnings about unreferenced variables, as you clearly don't care about the first 10.
too funny. i need to go clean up this code...
#2070 posted by Spike on 2016/02/14 18:44:34
@preach
1) yes, it avoids going through each func+trigger spawn function to ensure that there's a precache_model(self.model) line. I guess it depends how lazy you are.
it'd be nice if engines supported precaches any time, but this implies mid-game downloads and possible reliable-vs-datagram races and things (which would crash vanilla before any illegible server messages), both of which are nasty enough that the qcc(+maybe engine) should still warn if something isn't explicitly precached.
2) by all means wrap precache_model so that it doesn't crash outside spawn functions. wrapping setmodel will just hide things so that compilers cannot reliably detect it.
Ideally the server would only error if the precache is actually new... but considering how many people use crippleware engines, this ideal is admittedly laughable.
3) it would be better to make a 'presetmodel' function that does both, or something. at least then the compiler won't see either the precache or the set.
you'd still need a precache_model if you do an explicit setmodel elsewhere.
4) qcc trying to detect missing precaches is a nice idea, but also still a hack that can only see immediates, with hardcoded function names.
I fully admit that I'm biased towards one of those hacks. :P
@necros
you can use the verbose(aka: -v) option if you want a list of all of them instead of just the first ten.
or you can use #pragma noref 1 and #pragma noref 0 around them if you want the qcc to (mostly) ignore any unimportant defs, like unused builtins etc that you might find in dpextensions.qc (note that this is the mechanism used by fteextensions.qc to silence warnings about all that unused stuff).
Of course, you should only really use this if its meant to be maintained by someone else.
#2071 posted by necros on 2016/02/14 21:08:40
thanks spike! yeah, i was doing them 10 at a time... this is much faster.
also, thanks for the noref pragma... where is the documentation for all these little tricks? the wiki i linked to earlier doesn't seem to have any other pages?
#2072 posted by khreathor on 2016/02/15 15:42:40
Is there some good article describing how Quake's Lightmapping works? I tried to understand it from BSP format docs, but it looks like some black magic.
#2073 posted by necros on 2016/02/15 16:30:39
lightmaps are basically just textures.
there are 64 'styles'
each face in a map can have at most 4 styles on it.
typically there's only one style, style 0 which is always on.
then there are 11 other styles that flicker and pulse and such. these are the ones you can select in the editor.
each time you make a target/targetname switchable light, the light utility reserves a new style number.
qc then changes the style via lightstyle function. these numbers start at 12.
it's important to note that the target/targetname has nothing to do with anything other than letter the QC pick up the style value that light.exe has added to the entity after compiling.
I Think He Means Lightmapping
#2074 posted by Qmaster on 2016/02/15 18:45:16
#2075 posted by metlslime on 2016/02/15 19:47:36
I believe, switchable light styles start at 32
Lightmap On In Dedicated Server Mode?
Is this hard to do from the engine? Could an extension be made so it can be done in QC ?
Sound Isn't Looped
#2077 posted by madfox on 2016/02/24 09:32:29
A static entity, with a precached sound runs a 11000hz wav in the right order.
Another setup with the same statements remarks the sound wav isn't looped.
I can't remember I looped the first sound. I start Cool, load the sample, save it as looped. Same outcome, not looped.
Audacity the same, saved looped, same error.
What is the cause of this well or not looped sound?
@Madfox
I seem to remember once if the sound was in the /ambience folder, it always seemed to loop no matter the type. Try that and repost here.
No It Doesn't
#2079 posted by ijed on 2016/02/24 21:21:33
Integrate
#2080 posted by madfox on 2016/02/24 21:52:54
I had this earlier, but then Cool-150 adjusted the loop function.
Now I even can save the wav.
Back To Gibs That Stick....
Revised the code and got them sticking to ceilings, with occasional bloodshowers, however if the ceiling is sloped, we need to probably check its angle and apply gravity in a "reverse" direction in some cases possibly. How to get the engine to do that, id say is a challenge.
But I went with MOVETYPE_NOCLIP to get it to slide straight down on the wall, and checkbottom works well to break it out of noclip so far. Im using Darkplaces with setmodelrealbox, so the model actually has what I refer to as a "mass" m basicly its not point size anymore...so you can set larger gibs so slide faster for realism. I updated the code here if anyone wants to take a peek or collaborate / add a tweak:
http://collabedit.com/phw6e
Trying to get a brutal quake going?
Experiment
yea, Brutal Doom was maybe where I first saw this back when I tried it. Curious how it looks in Quake. So far that code seems to work kinda well, but sloping surfaces need to be addressed.
Modified
Updated the code again. Hopefully now it will know when its not in contact with the surface if its moved to a corner while traveling down, which does not rest on a floor. It ought to detach now and become a regular gib. Still need to test it though...yea all this for a Giblet, right ? :)
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