#20612 posted by Spirit on 2011/07/25 08:49:04
Hey jt, go troll some atheists instead.
Reminder That Jt_ Is A Man With Dumb Views (see Homepage In Profile)
#20613 posted by czg on 2011/07/25 08:52:36
bear and Spirit are right.
glad to hear everything is okay with you Berntsen.
thanks for caring, Shambler. Nobody I, or my family knows were affected by the events.
That's Actually A Great Example
#20614 posted by megaman on 2011/07/25 10:54:44
You wouldn't be able to set up a party with the main goal of reintroducing monarchy in a "democracy" that censors stuff that's "against democracy". Even if the majority of people would favor it.
Democracy Is Fair
#20615 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/07/25 12:42:06
By definition. Democracy favours majorities, but that is why it is fair - you can piss of a small group of people or a large one. To piss of a small group of people is not as bad as pissing off a large group of people. /scienceLesson
Also I Dont Think The Guy Should Be Heard
#20616 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/07/25 12:47:43
I dont think he has a right to 'explain himself' even if it would allow reasonable people a chance to deconstuct and destroy all of his arguments one by one. First of all some people might agree with him, and that is dangerous. Secondly an example should be made that if a person goes on a killing spree that by doing so you loose the right to spread whatever message you were trying to spread. Killing spree's are not the answer to political or social debates. And if they are used in such a debate, that the killer's message and beliefs are de-valued entirely.
Dear God
#20617 posted by Spirit on 2011/07/25 13:21:31
Denying human rights is never an option.
I am wondering what kind of treatment you would recommend for eg US soldiers who proudly went to the middle east to kill those filthy raghead donkey loving third class humans. Do you like how Saddam Hussein was hung?
I Think That In This Case, They Guy's Right To Forum
#20618 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/07/25 13:48:34
Should be denied.
Saddam Hussein deserved to be hung, for killing all those kurds in the late eighties, women, childeren, chemical warfare. Screw that guy, he got what was coming.
U.S. Military - dont get me started on the U.S. Military. I would never blindly pledge alleigance to a piece of fabric. And what exactly they think they are upholding other than a deeply deeply deeply deeply deeply deeply deeply deeply corrupt government, I have no idea.
I will say that if you blow up and shoot hundreds of innocent people in an act of terrorism that you loose certain rights. Including the right to have your beliefs heard by masses. I dont think you automatically have that right anyway, do you? Mass cold-blooded killers should not have their point of view heard. It sends out the message that if you kill hundreds of innocent people, then everyone will listen to your point of view.
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#20619 posted by ijed on 2011/07/25 14:00:19
Never denying anyone ever rights ever is extreme liberalism.
Child rapists, murderers, terrorists and dictators long ago decided to ignore basic human rights, they don't deserve any in return.
(...) decided to ignore basic human rights, they don't deserve any in return.
Agree 110%
Lol
#20621 posted by jt_ on 2011/07/25 14:13:33
#20622 posted by Spirit on 2011/07/25 14:20:31
Wtf is it with "right to be heard by the masses"? What do you mean? If anything the masses will only hear of his hearing if the media decides to. This is not a problem in the justice system. It's the sensationalist lust of people just like you.
What good does it ever do to kill someone? If you support this, then you are not better than a murderer in my eyes.
Jesus fuck, why did I even bother participating in this disgusting conversation.
Rights
#20623 posted by jt_ on 2011/07/25 14:25:33
The man who went on a killing spree in oslo has voluntarily given up his rights when he murdered 80+ people. The only thing to do now is have him tried and to bring compensation to the victims families.
Czg, what exactly are these ' dumb views' you're talking about? Care to elaborate or would you prefer to keep acting like a demagogue?
Spirit, I'm not trolling, nor would I troll someone on their religious views.
OK, OK
#20624 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/07/25 14:42:12
I think you and I are thinking on different channels here. The guy who shot and blew up all of those people knew that what he was doing meant that he was to be 'shot on sight'. If I was there and I had a gun, I would have shot him myself. My motivations for killing him would be to avenge the deaths of all of the innocent people who he had killed, and to prevent him from killing anyone else. And he wanted that. He wanted me to want to kill him. I would not have wanted to kill anyone else there, unlike him. He wanted to kill as many innocent people as possible.
If someone put me in the position of killing hundreds of people or killing myself I would kill myself.
The Idea Of Showing Him Compassion
#20625 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/07/25 15:17:15
Is to me offensive. To be honest I dont care if it's a government, an army, terrorists, psychos, aliens or otherwise - running around shooting and blowing up innocent people is wrong, should not be tollerated, perpetrators deserve no mercy, why the hell should the people of Norway have to pay for this guy to be imprisoned, fed, clothed, watered, doctored, sustained and kept alive (cause you can be damn sure he aint going to be working for those things), when they already have to pay for the inquest, the cleanup, and that's without even stratching the surface of of any of the other horrors, traumas, lives left in ruins, some of which will never be repaired or healed.
If this had been a questionable case, of a few people, with a lack of evidence, then believe me - I'm all for a proper investigation and trail, I believe we have a right to be treat as innocent until proven guilty. I also believe that the punishment for a crime should not be worse than the crime committed. But this is an open and closed case. The pathetic excuse for a 'human' wont be getting any compassion from me.
#20626 posted by megaman on 2011/07/25 15:18:24
decided to ignore basic human rights, they don't deserve any in return.
So we're at "eye for an eye" now :(
Jesus fuck, why did I even bother participating in this disgusting conversation. :D
To Be Fair To The US Military
#20627 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/07/25 15:19:10
The UK Government are no better.
#20628 posted by Trinca on 2011/07/25 15:21:48
WTF wasn't a threath for Politis and trolling?
GO AWAY U RAPPISTS
:)
#20629 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/07/25 15:49:14
decided to ignore basic human rights, they don't deserve any in return.
So we're at "eye for an eye" now :(
I know, where is the poetic justice in that?
Changing The Subject Though:
#20630 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/07/25 16:26:02
#20631 posted by jt_ on 2011/07/25 17:25:41
A while ago preach posted a modification for profiling qc in fitzquake. I thought it was in the coding help thread, but doing a quick search I didn't find it. anyone know what I'm talking about and remember where it is?
OK I Could Be Wrong But Is It Here:
#20632 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/07/25 17:46:22
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=60097&start=85
Theres a link at post #105 or something......
Dont know what profiling is.....
#20633 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/07/25 17:47:10
post #108, thats it....
Not It
#20634 posted by jt_ on 2011/07/25 20:22:09
I thought it was a response to #95, but after searching the entire thread, I didn't find it. It's not in the fitz 0.85 thread either (I just searched for 'preach,' though). I'm starting to think that either preach didn't write what I'm thinking of, or I have no idea what I'm talking about. All I remember was it was an engine mod that might have done something with the profile command, and it was qc related.
Possible Lead...
#20635 posted by Preach on 2011/07/25 21:36:50
Are you remembering the now languishing attempt to replace QC with javascript, which produced a hybrid engine where you could enter js snippets at the console to read and modify the current state of the QC (as long as you didn't care about altering strings)? Only thing that springs to mind...
No
#20636 posted by jt_ on 2011/07/26 01:00:30
Someone extended some existing command to display more info.
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