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They started accepting pre-orders in exchange for access to early builds many years ago so it's their own fault if people are expecting something willem
I have preordered, I've got weekly updates and 3 of their new games for free. I'm not sure what exactly people are expecting, it's not like they've ever promised a quota. People don't pre-order games to get weekly updates of, "I added a new rock mesh and tinted a few textures".
Hell, I pre-ordered a copy so I could show it off at a company meeting of level designers The game has been in development for a looong time and doesn't appear to be anywhere near finished. If they want to take people's money years in advance of delivering anything, that's fine, but they need to be clearer about it IMO. Most people expect something to arrive within a year or so of pre-ordering at the outside edge. People don't pre-order games to get weekly updates of, "I added a new rock mesh and tinted a few textures".
Most people expect something to arrive within a year or so of pre-ordering at the outside edge. And where are the statistics of all this? You're just generalizing your personal opinion with statements like that. If they want to take people's money years in advance of delivering anything, that's fine, but they need to be clearer about it IMO. Yeah sure but I'm wondering whether they're even aware some pre-orderers are discontent? They offer refunds on the pre-orders if you're not satisfied. Nothing personal or anything, I just have trouble following your argument apart from 'progress is too slow for my liking' which I mostly agree with. They've got a lot of people's money so it wouldn't harm to be seen to be developing with a little more urgency. Pre-ordering from an indie dev is a great show of support and I'm sure a lot of people are just happy to have done so, but common decency (if nothing else -- consumer rights are understandably sketchy in these cases) dictates that they should deliver a complete product to those customers within a reasonable time-frame. Obviously there's no absolute definition of what constitutes a 'reasonable time-frame', but from what I've seen of this project they've gone beyond it -- but that's for every individual to decide for themselves and ultimately it only matters what the developer considers to be reasonable.
Basically nobody can authoritatively say whether they've done bad by their customers or not, but it's got to a point where I think those self-same customers are fully justified in feeling worried if not offended. Obviously refunds are possible, but it's a shame that the dev's have let it get to that stage. Never heard of this guy before, but his architecture is really impressive:
St. Ludwig Saarlois http://www.flickriver.com/photos/johannjm/3156098826/ More stuff http://www.kunstlexikonsaar.de/artikel/-/aspekte-die-kunst-unverwechselbar-zu-sein-tradition-und-innovation-im-werk-gottfried-boehms/ Haha, this is awesome, I love the oldskool gui:
http://youtu.be/wpqC12YvZ3I This one goes on the blogroll...
http://anime-backgrounds.tumblr.com/ http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2013/03/13/174203234/pacific-island-bigger-than-manhattan-vanishes
And what about the reverse? ... but this can be an useful collection and index for references.
http://stronghold.heavengames.com/history/cw/index_html
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