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This Has Been Buggin' Me Since About 1997... 
...Today I got back to it, by chance, and I thought I might as well ask you people...

Does anyone have found the 2nd secret in ikspq1 Before Nightfall?

Because I think it's the only secret in any Q map I never found... I only ever find the shootable wall(1st one).

I turned this map inside out again today, but still no luck. Is it even there, or is it some strange bug miscounting secrets?
Is it a fake secret never intended to be found?

I'm stumped. 
Optimus Joop 
Okay, fixed - coop should work now. The error was caused by a map hack that would cause trouble as soon as the server was set for more than one player.

You can grab the updated version here.

Please report back how it works and if you run into any other issues. After this troublesome maintenance I dare you and NahkahiiR to do a Berzerk mode speedrun! ;) 
Fast Fix! 
seems fine now, tested it solo. We will msot likely do a coop on it. Not sure bout the special modes, small downer on that is you have to record it like a marathon demo and then decompile. 
Berzerk 
1:35 on the berzerk run 
Derp, I Was Vague 
Why do you think there can't be both outdoor and indoor scenes? Just because now they're showing off indoor scenes doesn't mean they scrapped the outdoor stuff.

I meant that we'll just have to wait for the final game to see what the actual indoor/outdoor balance is. 
Ikspq1 
You havent turned it upside enough, I just opened the map and found it in 1 minute. If you still cant find it you coudl always watch a demo from sda

else just translate this korean sentence:

2층에 지상 하나에 2개의 열 수 있는 벽 하나가 있다

rofl if you translate it back it comes out as a puzzle, good luck. 
Ah That Doesnt Work 
well here is what the re-translation reads:

There are 2 walls which are the possibility in three layer of stinging in ground one


that should be of great help. 
WOW. 
That is... incredible.

I can't even begin to tell how much time I spent in this map looking for that secret. And I never thought of searching SDA, either...

Really, I spent like 14 years, looking for that. Even Noclipping around somehow eluded me, this map must have been playing tricks to my mind.


So, thanks OJ for the heads up and please, all of you, let the shower of sarcasm begin... 
Hmz 
 
So

Do we need to buy and play the Potato Pack to get them to release Portal 2 or what 
 
Seems like it

http://kotaku.com/#!5792476/we-can-unlock-portal-2-early-together-by-playing-indie-games

Do they need to be bought as part of the potato pack ?

Ah screw it, I'll probably buy it anyway. Damn you Valve! 
It Will Be Released Early 
If enough people play the games in te potato sack. According to the kotaku article. 
Potatoes 
You don't need to buy the pack to help out, if you already own any of those games.
This means I have time to grab my two missing potatoes, yay! 
Kitteh 
Hypnopompic 
http://www.psychic-experiences.com/real-psychic-story.php?story=1699

I was researching what it means to hear a voice when you wake up. You see this one time I woke up and I was lying on the floor (taking a cat-nap), and in a state of being almost awake I could hear footsteps running through the hallway of the house (which was scary because I was lying on the floor next to a door into the hallway), and then in the instance of waking this voice said:

"Come and get it"

I stood up and, horrified, still vividly remembering this voice as if it were echoing round my head, I checked all of the rooms in the house, but there was no-one there.

Erk. And once when I was a kid I saw a shadow fly past my bedroom window. Really slowly.

Anyway, now I am scared (shiver runs up spine)..... 
"Fountain Of Emptiness" 
Anyone else find this inspiring for abstract space map designs? 
 
Ricky: it's not a sleep paralysis then?

I read horrible things about those: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis
 
negke: totally!

Mandel: sleep paralysis... that is one screwed up experience. 
Paralyzed? 
I dreamed I had a deja-vu of my last dream. 
Heh 
It has happened a few times, but i just considered it to be a nightmare/dream. Still its a bit freaky, eh? 
 
sometimes when falling asleep i'll distinctly hear noises. usually they are loud ones like doors slamming or a yell (not words). i just put it down to brain in shutdown mode.
i assume hearing shit when waking up is probably the same but in startup mode.
there's supposed to be a lot of crap going down in the brain when you wake up as it reorganizes all the memories from your dreams and flags them as 'delete me'. might be something from that... who knows. 
Me Too 
sometimes when falling asleep i'll distinctly hear noises. usually they are loud ones like doors slamming or a yell (not words). i just put it down to brain in shutdown mode.

And I'm pretty sure I once heard the Quake DBS sound this way.

...

You know you played too much Quake when... 
Hmm 
Think that's bad otp? I once dreamed of the radiant grid... Sad times. 
Dreamy States 
Nice experiences. I would like to have that kind of things. Sleep paralysis is cool when it happens. I have had it twice. Just lying there and being unable to move or speak.

Loud noises of slamming doors indicate an out of body experience that's coming close. There are many techniques to achieve it. I have experienced this once. I often find it difficult to relax completely to hear these noises because of a backpain. 
 
sleep paralysis I had one really freaky experience of. lucid dreaming on the other hand is really interesting. I've tested the 3d-ness of things in lucid dreams (yep, level design nerd). 
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