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#20183 posted by starbuck on 2011/03/23 01:34:31
everything Megaman said is correct
 Yeah - Thats Also Good Advice
#20184 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/23 01:53:41
Thanks.
I'm gonna submit the site for marking fairly imminently, but advice like "less over-done flash content" and making the formatting so it's easier to read by breaking it up is all good honest advice. If it were entirely up to me i would have changed some of the colours in the logo too, but apparently I'm not allowed to do that.
The entire last paragraph you wrote Starbuck is also very very true.
Unfortunately the brief I was given was that I had to use loads of columns, otherwise I would have made the whole site narrower too, and had the menu at the top.
I think the tutor is happy with it, so I will prob take a load of the stuff out of it (for the sake of Lakeland Scot. F.S.) after I have submitted it and recieved whatever grading they give me. The course is Dreamweaver/Flash, so I need the flash stuff in there atm.
 Heh - Well I Submitted It And Got An A Grade!
#20185 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/23 22:58:43
Yippee!!! Happy days.
I can take some of the flash out now. And tweak the margins from the CSS fairly easily too.....
Thanks for all suggestions :)
 As A General Rule
#20186 posted by jt_ on 2011/03/23 23:17:55
If a website has a flash intro, or is completely dependent on it (flash), it's not worth visiting.
 That's A Bold Statement
#20187 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/24 02:28:49
I think it depends on the purpose of the website.
I mean for a static bulletin then why not?
If everytime I logged into google or facebook (or func) I had to endure a 'flash-intro' then yeah - that would suck.
TBH I was very disappointed with the amount of Actionscript that was in the course. Practically none :(
The idea of coding games in Flash was appealing to me. Guess I can find a couple of youtube videos for it though....
 Yes
#20188 posted by SleepwalkR on 2011/03/24 08:24:43
jt_++
Flash is the wrong tool for the job 90% of the time. There are very few cases where the use of flash is justified.
 Thats Seems Kind Of Stupid
#20189 posted by ijed on 2011/03/24 12:55:03
It depends what the job is.
Flash has some great uses, otherwise it wouldn't be so prevalent.
 Flash Is Good For Making Adds Though
#20190 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/24 13:08:22
90% of the time if an add doesn't have flash in it then it's not a real add.
 Ricky:
#20191 posted by bear on 2011/03/24 13:40:54
Flashpunk seems like a good starting point with a fair amount of getting started videos.
Html5 and javascript is probably the way things are moving though...
 Flash Would Have Great Uses
#20192 posted by jt_ on 2011/03/24 13:50:28
If it didn't suck so much. Even on my core i7, with 8gb of ram, flash can heat it up. Not to mention all of the security vulnerabilities that flash has, &c.
 Lol - Well I'll Try Not To Feel Too Bad About Myself
#20193 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/24 14:05:38
In light of jt_ and SleepwalkR's trolling, but I dont know if it's gonna be easy. I might have to commit suicide for another two wasted years of my life.
 Omg Flash!!
#20194 posted by negke on 2011/03/24 14:15:12
And it has a typo, too: independant!!
"Ruminant Nutritionist" sounds like a good name for map, though. :D
 Did You Know:
#20195 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/24 14:17:47
A cow is a bit like a walking fermentation tank....
 They Have A High Blood-alchohol Level
#20196 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/24 14:18:10
Naturally
 Ricky
#20197 posted by negke on 2011/03/24 14:19:12
The flash stuff isn't really necessary for the site, but it's not annoying, either. It may even make it a bit more appealing than how I imagine other sites of this kind/purpose to be.
 Also:
#20198 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/24 14:25:39
I want to learn more about server-side technology, databasing, php, sql, apache?, definitely java, how to spell proper etc...
Just takes time and guidance. I have touble knowing where to start with learning this stuff, but i am understanding bits and bobs as I go along.
 Eg:
#20199 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/24 14:27:01
 Trolling?
#20200 posted by SleepwalkR on 2011/03/24 14:28:51
Ricky, you are an idiot for investing time and money in a technology that is going to disappear in a few years. There's your trolling.
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#20201 posted by SleepwalkR on 2011/03/24 14:33:50
If you want to learn server side, ditch flash and that stuff and learn to program properly first. Java is a good way to go if you want a job, the Java eco system is huge and has lots and lots of opportunities. It can be a bit daunting at first though because there is LOTs of frameworks, libraries, tools etc. out there. Maybe start with something simpler (Ruby on Rails for example) and work your way up.
I can't recommend PHP because even though it is pretty easy to learn, it's a shit language with a shit library on top of a shit engine. It's good for prototyping stuff and small projects, but it's not the way to go if you are interested in really learning to program and how server side stuff works. Yeah yeah, lots of large sites are built with PHP. That's because those sites started out as small projects (of non-programmers) or prototypes and evolved from there. It's not what a serious engineer would do though.
 Flash Trolling?
#20202 posted by jt_ on 2011/03/24 14:53:24
If what I said about flash was considerred trolling, i won't comment on java. I will provide a link though.
 Yeah, Im Appreciating The Advice Part
#20203 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/24 15:03:13
That was nice of you. I'm just not likeing the unpleasant way you speak to me. It seems very scathing. I did a course in Dreamweaver and Flash, I'm trying to get some certificates. And hopefully get into a career in IT. I'm not in a situation where going to a University and embelishing myself with lots of money and time is an option! And I managed to get my employer to pay for the course because they get a website out of it. So having some guy who you look up to because you already know he knows more than you do call you an idiot, and rubbing the salt into the wound, well, it makes me feel bad.
I mean I know I need to learn more stuff, but teaching yourself something like a server-side programming language, or anything that resembles C++ is, like you say, quite daunting, and I want to start learning it.
I mean atleast with the Flash course I'm learning to use a GUI which incorporates visual elements with programming elements. Im learnign a bit of scrip here, and a bit of script there, and understanding how they they work from a practiacal perspective.
Anyhway I'm just glad I've got the certificates on the way, and that I have gained a bit of confidence (which I'm trying to defend) and may now, hopefully, be able to learn something else now. The question is what?
 Yeah, Im Appreciating The Advice Part
#20204 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/24 15:03:13
That was nice of you. I'm just not likeing the unpleasant way you speak to me. It seems very scathing. I did a course in Dreamweaver and Flash, I'm trying to get some certificates. And hopefully get into a career in IT. I'm not in a situation where going to a University and embelishing myself with lots of money and time is an option! And I managed to get my employer to pay for the course because they get a website out of it. So having some guy who you look up to because you already know he knows more than you do call you an idiot, and rubbing the salt into the wound, well, it makes me feel bad.
I mean I know I need to learn more stuff, but teaching yourself something like a server-side programming language, or anything that resembles C++ is, like you say, quite daunting, and I want to start learning it.
I mean atleast with the Flash course I'm learning to use a GUI which incorporates visual elements with programming elements. Im learnign a bit of scrip here, and a bit of script there, and understanding how they they work from a practiacal perspective.
Anyhway I'm just glad I've got the certificates on the way, and that I have gained a bit of confidence (which I'm trying to defend) and may now, hopefully, be able to learn something else now. The question is what?
 I Know I Only Clicked That Mouse Once!
#20205 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/24 15:04:51
 Sorry To Add To The Trolling
#20206 posted by Kinn on 2011/03/24 15:40:23
But getting certificates in Dreamweaver/Flash or whatever is probably a complete waste of time from an IT career point of view; you'll be much better off just biting the bullet and start learning to code. Like Sleepwalkr said.
 I Beg To Differ About It Being A Complete Waste Of Time
#20207 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/24 16:01:36
Dreamweaver is a great tool for making static webpages. And 'IT Career' is SOOOO general, it's like your comment denies the existence of Dreamweaver and Flash (?), which are useful things to know if you were making webpages for small businesses, or tried to get a job working for a company which makes webpages for small businesses. Which could be lucrative.
Learning to code is a complete waste of time if you never need to use it! I mean Dreamweaver allows you to make practical uses out of a lot of Javascript without having to learn Javascript.
Im still gald I got the certificate because atleast it shows that I can see things through to completion, that's got to be worth something!
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