Spirit Got It
#19573 posted by DaZ on 2010/11/10 23:14:32
Minecraft is a great example of that, and Quake also, the graphics are very basic so you fill in the missing pieces with your mind.
If minecraft had a mega-budget and "better" realistic graphics I think it would lose a lot of its personality and charm. Things you build would start looking incorrect if you used the wrong building blocks, etc. Where as now you really chose what block to use because you like the colour or texture of it, and your mind fills in the rest.
Gb
#19574 posted by - on 2010/11/11 07:37:16
I could just as easily montage a 320x200 DOOM screen next to a 1920x1280 Brink/Rage/Singularity screen and say "See?"
Having worked on Singularity, I can say with utmost confidence that most of the level design was exactly that second picture.
Maybe.
#19575 posted by necros on 2010/11/11 08:20:47
but just showing a top down of a doom map and saying 'see how complex this is' is stupid.
#19576 posted by ijed on 2010/11/11 12:13:47
This seems to be bubbling nicely but think I'll give it a stir -
I think it was mexx8 that was completely lineal - no loops or backtracking at all for an entire episode but was so clear in its gameplay style I enjoyed it more than many other maps that do have exploration.
It all depends on what the designer wanted to achieve, and how closely they held themselves to their vision.
Edge Of Chaos Hexen Mod Released For Doom 3
#19577 posted by Zwiffle on 2010/11/11 21:58:26
Holy Shit
#19578 posted by necros on 2010/11/11 22:01:05
Wow NO WAY
#19579 posted by Tronyn on 2010/11/11 22:36:35
I was sure that was dead a long time ago
Hot Damn
#19580 posted by jt_ on 2010/11/11 23:37:03
It's time to buy Doom 3.
Holy Crap
#19581 posted by DaZ on 2010/11/12 06:09:40
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/11/11/reich-here-reich-now-reich-footage/
Shame its been cancelled, that looks sooooooo fun!
Just check video 2 and 3 if your pressed for time.
Daz
#19582 posted by Vondur on 2010/11/12 07:16:17
Daaaaaamn :( Awesome videos there!
LOL.
#19583 posted by Shambler on 2010/11/12 10:46:38
That looks completely ridiculous. And pretty good.
Maybe a bit too close to Singularity + Timeshift + Painkiller tho.
Return To Castle WTFenstein
#19584 posted by starbuck on 2010/11/12 12:32:11
That first video looks like Nazis meets tron, but also there's lots of Quake symbols and a Shambler.
Video 2 they released to reassure players that the story and characters are pig-fuckingly bad. Rebel leader girl with strategically ripped shirt, who sounds like she's ordering a burrito, CHECK. Dickhead protagonist, saying self-righteous, and also retarded things very loud, check. WHY STOP THE SPACE-NAZIS, PEOPLE ARE JUST INHERENTLY BAD.
Still would probably play it. Gameplay looks suitably destructive, looks like they possibly have some sort of destrucable scenery tech in there, maybe. Not sure.
Leftfield Top 10
#19585 posted by stevenaaus on 2010/11/13 08:22:11
No Quake
#19586 posted by meTch on 2010/11/13 08:55:55
list inaccurate,
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Top # Lists Are Crap Anyway
#19587 posted by negke on 2010/11/13 09:31:41
Speak of subjectivity. However, I think if I had to make a Top10 of video games, I wouldn't include Quake, either.
Bangin The Drum
#19588 posted by ijed on 2010/11/13 14:05:43
The problem is that linear is cheapest.
That's wrong. What I see is that lineal is just easier to understand. Management decides what game you're making, and they don't want the stress of thinking of complicated ones.
The cost is the immaterial - they can spend as much money as they want, basically. But most anyone who reaches a level of control where they can decide the direction of a company really doesn't give a flying fuck about quality, just getting it over with and advancing to the next one.
#19589 posted by ijed on 2010/11/13 14:08:09
Not having a pop at you Tronyn - but as you can read, I've been in the industry too long. But to be honest, maybe a year is too long.
I Know, Np
#19590 posted by Tronyn on 2010/11/13 15:14:00
I just meant that if the game is single player, and the player's expecting maybe 20 hours of SP gameplay, making one 20 hour game is easier than making more than one, which would be the result of having branching episodes, more player control, etc. I guess this relates more to game design than level design, but I think a similar principle applies. The other classic flaw of Doom3 was that they wanted to maximize detail, so the map design couldn't be interwoven with lots of areas visible from each other.
Top 10 Computer Games
#19591 posted by starbuck on 2010/11/13 15:36:27
pretty arbitrary judging system they've got there. Sometimes it's popularity (WoW) sometimes it's because it's bundled with your computer (Minesweeper), sometimes it's because it's a programming achievement (Spacewar), sometimes because it's got groundbreaking gameplay (Half-Life).
In summary, this list is invalid because it doesn't contain Spider Solitaire.
Also...
#19592 posted by metlslime on 2010/11/13 18:56:56
one of their top ten is a console game.
Ha Ha.. Solitaires I Still Play
#19593 posted by stevenaaus on 2010/11/13 21:29:00
Tkspider ( download screenshot), Knetwalk, Kmines
Linked projects need Tcl. My chess project is the hugest thing eva, and the reason i'm such a shitty Q coder.
Hmmm... solitaires or shooters ? Probably 50-50.
Uhm
#19594 posted by SleepwalkR on 2010/11/13 21:35:16
what?
Lol Btw Starbuck
#19595 posted by Tronyn on 2010/11/14 00:13:49
checked out #2 on the "strategically ripped shirt" and had to close the window as soon as the guy said "but you've been targeted for DEATH for committing MASSIVE ATTACKS against the NAZIS!" and the girl nonchalantly replied "Of course. blahh..."
of course?? of course?? WHAT THE HELL.
I'm starting to wonder (for a number of reasons) whether the benefits would outweigh the drawbacks in a sort of copyright anarchy, as long as proper credit was given.
#19596 posted by starbuck on 2010/11/14 04:08:57
in their defense, maybe those are stand-in voices from the devs. Can't think of an excuse for the dialogue though.
Exactly
#19597 posted by Tronyn on 2010/11/14 19:11:03
however you perform it, it still sounds like a new level of retarded. Congratulations to those who canceled this, a rare example of a game company NOT insulting its customers intelligence.
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