Re #1907 by Kin on 2015/11/12 17:08:10:
I've read this post today and just fired up the Doom 3 Editor and looked at a freshly saved map file.
And oh my, this is real. They are really using the numerically unstable way of saving brush plane information using just a normal vector and a distance value.
Why on earth would ANYONE do that? Move the whole level geometry forward and back a bit a few times, and you're _guaranteed_ to have everything that's not perfectly straight entirely screwed up! That's lunatic!
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I think Sikkpin or someone modded the editor to use the quake-style plane format and the problem of course just went away - you could try to dig up some info about that. 

I lost a couple of maps to that feature before I realized that you're really meant to so complex get with models. 

Would this be something that could be supported in the future by TB?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJzguNJsivM 

but I have no interest in developing plugins for Unreal. If anyone wants to do it, I'll support it, but I won't do it myself. 

I am having trouble loading FGDs for Hipnotic and Rogue into TB2. Has anyone else tried these in this build? Maybe I am doing something wonky. Trying the FGD versions from Quaddicted archives. wanted to ask before submitting to Github.

Error and then crash:

Unknown entity definition class @Main (line 8, column 1)

TrenchBroom-Win32-2.0.0-36e49c4-Release 

Cannot load this in TB1 either same error although it doesn't crash. 

 

Working fgd in a text editor 

Looking at recent changes and the 2.0 issue list it seems like an official 2.0 release is close? Would be awesome! Is Q3 (Warsow, Xonotic etc.) editing in by now?

Thanks for creating this cool tool! 

I just need to write the docs.

Sorry, no Q3 support, but that's the first feature I'm going to work on for 2.1. 

so I can make pipes super easily -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKH2FiUmY5M 

Fun fact ... I wrote that tool. :P 

you know what you need to do then, make it for quake! ;) 

And maybe you can explain to me what's happening in that video, I didn't understand it. 

if we could just use this tool? You can export the brush to a text file which appears to give all the co-ordinates.

So I made a bendy pipe, see screenshot -

https://www.dropbox.com/s/05wmcrs7c4is635/pipebend.jpg?dl=0

And here's what the text file looks like.

http://pastebin.com/xdmVE6Z1

Do you think this could be converted to the .map format somehow? If so that would be a neat tool for folks to use, granted you'd be dependant on Unreal Editor 2 for some very specific purpose but it's ridiculously quick. 

Lunaran suggested it. I like it.

As for the video, basically you're drawing a 2D shape and then revolving it around a pivot point.

It would be way more complicated for Quake as it would have to generate convex brushes. Unreal was easy since all it requires is convex faces - brush can be any shape you want. 

 

Wait... That's Warren? OK then. Changing names more than caitlyn jenner changes gender ;) 

My idea for a similar tool was to move a plane along a path and create brushes from that. The number of brushes depends on some precision factor given by the user. The path is defined either by a series of transformations or by a curve. It' a generalization of your tool.

But it's just a very rough sketch right now. 

 

Sleep - Yeah, that would work for Quake. The limitation there is obviously that the polygon needs to be convex. A more powerful option would allow for multiple polygons to be extruded along said path - To create, say, a pipe with an indent in it or whatever... 

You could draw the shape with the new brush drawing tool and have it rotate around the world origin (or a point of your choosing). The 2d Shape Editor thing allows you to extrude out or create bevel objects too but I guess that's not needed as much for TB since it's already much better then UED 2 for editing vertices etc. 

I think having more than one polygon would be the way to go. Turning a concave polygon into convex ones is not too hard, but doing it in a way that appears "good" to a level designer is a challenge. The CSG subtraction in TB2 attempts to do this, and it works well, but the algorithm is kind of a nightmare.