#19424 posted by rj on 2010/10/14 21:32:23
qmap was 600. 100 wider. i think it looked slightly better...
I Don't See The Problem Here
Some websites allow you to choose your stylesheet of preference, why not make it an option to choose between the current width and a bigger (not liquid) width?
More On This...
#19426 posted by Mike Woodham on 2010/10/14 21:58:16
I have a 24" widescreen and a 19" 4:3.
Apart from the web, I have never used an application where I thought I would be better off with 4:3. And the web is just not an issue: on sites that can deal with 16:9 or 16:10, use the full screen. Otherwise just keep the browser in the middle of the desktop.
Although I do use the 4:3 now and then, I really would not miss it.
(I have it connected on dual screen all the time but have to adjust the resolution to below optimum on the 24" if I want to spread a window across both. I used to have BspEditor set up where the 3D window was on the 19" and everything else was on the 24" but it was kind of forcing the issue as the 24" is fine on its own.)
I just realised that even my laptops are widescreen, although they are a mixture of 16:9 and 16:10. And one of them is six years old. Kind of take widescreen for granted now.
#19427 posted by necros on 2010/10/14 22:36:40
it just comes back to that whole thing about how squares are bigger than rectangles for the same amount of room.
obviously, a 1:1 ratio would be weird but 4:3 for me is the best compromise between the two.
mike, i find it odd you say you've never used a program that you thought would be better in 4:3 because you're using one right now to post here. ;)
jokes aside, when have you ever seen a website that works better with wide screen? information is always sorted vertically like we have for this and like all forums in existence, news sites, etc.
in theory, you'd want a monitor the ratio of a4 letter paper to see the most text at once, but in practice it'd be stupid because you'd be craning your neck all the time.
still, i don't see how 16:10 or 16:9 is anything but inferior for web browsing.
coming back to my other post, films otoh, are perfect on wide screen.
Necros
#19428 posted by Mike Woodham on 2010/10/14 23:53:15
This will sound like nit-picking but I do not mean it like that - when I said about not thinking it would be BETTER off in 4:3, that is the point. To me, having a bit of white space (or pretty blue in the case of our favourite Func_m) is not an issue when knowing what benefits I can get out of a widescreen. But of course, because I use widescreen 98% of the time, there is no concious thought process going, "but would this look better in 4:3?"
Interestingly, I just quickly accessed of few of my regular sites (I am not a deep-surfin'-dude so there aren't many) and my ISP home page is displaying wall-to-wall in a completely logical way, YouTube has about 1.5" of whitespace either side, and a selection of the photography sites (I said photography!) I visit all do widescreen display or spread text and pictures automatically across the screen to look completely natural.
A key for me, because I am a business user of MS products, is being able to have source material open in one window (which may well be a browser viewing an 800 x 600 website, or a pdf document) next to my Word document in another window. And all being visible in lifesize A4 is an absolute boon.
#19429 posted by necros on 2010/10/15 00:24:18
i was actually going to bring up word processors as an argument since when you're typing a document on a widescreen, you basically have this thin white page with huge grey margins (or whatever the background colour is in your favourite word processor).
i hadn't thought about having another document open for reference, so yeah, that's definitely a boon there.
Nevermind Grumpy Me Above
#19430 posted by Spirit on 2010/10/15 01:01:25
Widescreen is awesome for coding. I use JEdit which allows me to split the window as I like so I usually have two to three files opened at once. Linux' (XFCE) "always on top" window feature also helps pinning more information on the screen.
For spreadsheets the benefit is obvious. Same for anything that uses sidebars or floating windows (drawing software, browsers).
2 Days In
#19431 posted by nitin on 2010/10/15 01:45:37
and all I can say is that it is different.
Has pluses and minuses to 4:3 but nothing that's making me tear my hair out, having made a few adjsutments of course.
You Can Run Things In Other Than Fullscreen...
#19432 posted by mwh on 2010/10/15 03:39:41
On my (cheap ass) fullhd monitor I like the fact that I don't have to run everything fullscreen to get a useful amount in a window like I do for my laptop's internal display. func_ looks ridiculous when running in a maximizer window, so I don't do that!
Hmm
#19433 posted by nonentity on 2010/10/15 03:51:56
The optimal line length for reading is 8-15 words average. Func has this. Done.
#19434 posted by Zwiffle on 2010/10/15 04:25:08
Reading func posts is similar to reading newspaper columns. Which I feel is a good thing, but to each his own.
Im Used To Func_ Being Like This
#19435 posted by RickyT33 on 2010/10/15 11:06:22
Im used to looking at it on a 24" 16:9 1080p and a 22" 16:10 1050p. It is easy too read. If the width was going to increase, the typeface would have to increase slightly too to compensate. Personally I think it looks good as it is.
Func
#19436 posted by generic on 2010/10/15 14:38:08
Could be better served as an 8-bit 3D game with posts as blocks that can be put into stacks. Flame posts could burn stacks down to bottom. Idea posts could illuminate the stacks around them. Beer posts could cause temporary FOV issue...
Or, I could get some more sleep ;)
MY OBSIDIAN POSTS ARE NIGH-INVULNERABLE
#19437 posted by ijed on 2010/10/15 16:58:31
Or
#19438 posted by madfox on 2010/10/15 22:04:16
maybe look for another specific stone value..,
or
why should I try to pen aid trade them
or
how come Rune maps look that awfull good?
func.., an oasis in popping up land.
Madfox
#19439 posted by necros on 2010/10/15 22:28:37
your posts always make me go o_O
Tell You What
#19440 posted by nitin on 2010/10/16 04:55:07
widescreen is no causing me as many issues as windows fucking 7.
It seems to be a fine operating system, but at least 2 old games (Beyond Good and evil, King Kong) I have tried to install wont because of incompatibility between their protection software and windows 7 (starforce basically). I really liked these games too...
#19441 posted by metlslime on 2010/10/16 06:01:55
yeah, beyond good and evil is really good...
Heh
#19442 posted by Tronyn on 2010/10/16 07:05:24
the book is especially great (/ranting asshole mode)
(I find it annoying that games like DEVIL MAY CRY (the lamest gothic console pukeshit) have the nerve to call characters in the game DANTE, and that games and movies now seem happy to rip classic TITLES for the name recognition without even having anything to do with it. B G&E is famous because of a genius, don't rip the title fucktard.) (/ranting asshole mode)
Just When I Thought I Found A Solution
#19443 posted by nitin on 2010/10/16 09:21:35
to install/run older games (microsoft's windows xp mode), it isnt available for download to me because I forked out for Windows 7 Home Premium only and not whatever else was on offer.
Absolute joke.
.hmmmm
#19444 posted by stevenaaus on 2010/10/16 10:53:31
You could run XP under virtualisation (VMWare or Parallels or something). Then the only question is what host OS is the best. Win 7 has new games of course.
But I saw OSX running XP via Parallels and it's sooooo gorgeous and seemless. You just need a big piece of RAM to move everything along. I think most VMs have hardware acceleration nowadays too. I've never actually done it though.
Or Just
#19445 posted by rj on 2010/10/16 11:08:11
install xp on a separate partition?
i may be biased as i never touched vista or 7. xp does everything i need it to and is running beautifully at the moment after a fresh reinstall - not to mention the horror stories i've heard in getting old games & apps to run in 7...
Win7's Virtual XP Mode
#19446 posted by negke on 2010/10/16 11:14:41
I bought Pro specifically for that, but it turned out different from what I expected. It works for older programs and drivers - e.g. I can still use my ancient scanner. However, I think it's useless for games, as its generic drivers don't support 3D hardware, for instance, and it's not even possible to switch to complete fullscreen.
So an alternate XP partition would be the way to go.
Thanks For The Heads Up Negke
#19447 posted by nitin on 2010/10/16 14:05:44
will look into sorting out a dual boot system.
Yeah
#19448 posted by RickyT33 on 2010/10/16 15:21:00
I'm dual booting XP and Windows 7. The only two situations I still require XP is for Fallout 3 (which runs on 7 but stutters like hell, runs perfectly on XP) and bsp2wad.exe doesn't support 64bit, so I can run that in XP. But I just use TexMex instead :D
XP is a great OS, it's useful to have it on my PC for when I need it.
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