What's that? I couldn't hear your through my money face mask. 

I know you're a one trick pony and all, but seriously, try not to wear out the tiny amount of hilarity left in the only joke you know.

Got any maps on the burner? I'd love to see what your input to the quake community looks like, beyond crappy overused one-liners ofc. 

What's that? I can't hear you because I'm fucking your mother with my money condom.

I'll break out another trick once you show me that you're interested in having a conversation. At the moment, you're trolling, so this is what you get in return. Enjoy! 

you cannot seriously argue that ZLZ showed any creativity or talent in using third party, automated software to rip off someone else's rip off of a good map.

Oh, and before you intentionally read that far too literally, I'd like to clarify that I'm not DENYING you the RIGHT to argue that point, I'm just saying it would be ridiculous to do so.

I'd also like to clarify that as far as I'm aware, nobody here picked on ZLZ specifically because he's new. Plenty of new people have posted things in the past but received much more positive responses based upon the content of their post. 

I didn't say they picked on him specifically because he is new, and I did not imply that the rip took talent or creativity.

Nice attempt at mouthstuffing to support your non-argument. You're either not very good at this trolling thing you're trying to do, or your reading comprehension is pretty shitty.


What I implied with my statements is that they felt like they could pick on him without any negative repercussions because he is new, and because they had passed judgement that he was talentless and not creative based on a single offering that offended them. (an offering which I doubt shows the extent of his abilities) 

No, the people here will pick on anyone. Him being new had nothing to do with it. Wipe your cheeks and try again. 

"Got any maps on the burner? I'd love to see what your input to the quake community looks like"

I'm legitimately trying to gauge what it is you actually do here other than post witless insults and bicker about copyright law. 

Eat shit. 

He made these maps within the last year or so:
http://www.quaddicted.com/spmaps.html?filtered=Willem
And these ones back in the olden days, when dinosaurs ruled the earth :)
http://www.quaddicted.com/spmaps.html?filtered=taskmaster
And he put this website up for modders and mappers to use at their convenience:
http://www.quaketastic.com/

Apart from that he hasnt done much except keep the Quake ball 'a rollin'..... 

Will-Helm when I first made contact with the guy.

But he's OK, really. 

I showed you some of my maps..

I even looked at the site linked in your profile, to see what kind of quaker you really are, but I saw nothing quake related. 

Your maps looked pretty decent to me BTW :)
Make an epic Q1SP and we will all love you forever. 

You mean other than the Quake level editing application on the front page? 

Windows port pleeze ;) 

I like the layout on whiteroom. looks pretty fun to play too.

reminds me of some of the neal&bob (jester and panzer) maps that were made for q2, in monochrome or solid color textures.

http://j-spot.backshooters.com/n_b.html 

I think those were pointed out back when I did White Room. It's a cool effect, I wish more maps would do abstract themes. 

since we're being slightly less caustic, here's a simple 1v1/DM map that I made for q2 with a bit of a q1 feel:

http://www.mediafire.com/?ywyxjt9dmcx 

This thread has probably wasted over a day of our collective lives.

Nobody can get you that time back.

So, STFU. 

make me. 

So finally we can put a name on you: http://dervish.tastyspleen.net/

Hi Dervish.

Judging by your posts at that Q2 board you seem like a mostly positive and nice guy. How about we all pretend nothing happened and give you a chance to start over? 

I figured I'd get outed with a map download, but w/e. :)


I'm not ashamed of anything that's been said here, so there's nothin to pretend about on my end.

for the record, I regularly get into e-arguments with people when I feel they're being lame or overly antagonistic, and I don't harbor ill will towards anyone over them. (including you guys)

they're just bits in cyberspace that make up words on a screen, so getting worked up is kinda out of the question. 

I find that attitude to be annoying but it's not worth arguing over. They're still words and words still mean things. When you type insults at someone it doesn't mean anything less than if you said it to their face - you're still insulting that person and people should feel accountable for the stuff they say online. IMO. 

"eat shit" 

Yeah. I didn't say I was immune and I take responsbility for that. I'm not going to say that it's the internet so it doesn't matter or whatever usually gets said. At the time, I meant that. You were a fucking asshole and I was abusing you. 

We set up a turtle map 1-on-1 competition, Willem vs Dervish, the judges will be Vondur, Shambler, czg, R.P.G., myself, biff, gibbie, Pope, mad_fox and Drew. And negke. And also generic. Okay. Now, for the rules:

1.) Each map must have at least 250 killable enemies.

2.) The map must last at least 17 minutes of game time minimum.

3.) Custom texture set, hand drawn by each participant.

4.) A 20-page explanation of the theme of the map and how it extends itself to the philosophical ideas of Kant.

5.) A secret exit to another turtlemap with a different custom texture set.

6.) A robot. A kick ass robot.

Although there are judges, the winner will be decided solely by how much shit they can talk.

GO!