are you changing the colour scheme spirit?

also, tronyn, what is black cathedral? like, just dark coloured bricks and such? 

Black Cathedral is hip2m2.bsp and its huge white bricks.

Personally I always found it quite a bit too sterile and bright for Quake :S 

that's a stupid name for it since they are white bricks. black cathedral makes me think of a cathedral made out of the dark rtgnosis blocks and bricks textures. 

i think they mean "black" in the "evil, satanic" sense, like Black Sabbath. 

yeah, i guess. ^_^; 

floats don't extend their parent container. 

So...

This California game law thing?

Is that just age restrictions/ratings on games or is there something I'm missing? 

My understanding of the game law says that it's illegal to sell violent games (MA+ in the states) to children/teens under 18. Like restricting young people from watching very violent movies, or porn. Perhaps I'm missing something too. 

sounds like a cool theme. It makes me think of black bricks too, maybe with lots of lava or blood pools for contrast.

Some random pics:

http://rlv.zcache.com/black_brick_wall_background_card-p137425809202680257tdn0_210.jpg

http://www.formidablephotography.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/luytens-crypt-metropolitan-cathedral-formidable-photography-2.jpg

http://durian.blender.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/john_martin-le_pandemonium.jpg (except this has brown stone)

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/ala/222.jpg

Are there any texture sets like this? I seem to remember playing a speedmap a few years ago with a similar black brick / lava theme, but I can't remember what it was. 

that magic card one is some exceptional badassery 

I liked the unusual look / colour scheme of this map (white/blue/gold/red), and I thought that the theme had lots of room for expansion (with trim/bricks/metal/wood recombined in new ways, like in the supplementary idbase or metal textures that maps like biff's q1sps use), plus all kinds of symbols/gargoyles/designs/shapes could be added. On the other hand, maybe a darker, dirtier look would fit Quake better. Or some combination of the two - a bright, clean facade, but crubmling, dirty, almost kingpin-like decay and corruption beneath that (especially in secret passageways and chambers) - kind of like the institution of the church itself actually (anyone see Dawkins brief anti-pope speech?). 

personally. 

There is a Q3 (or at least Quake Live) map called Black Cathedral that looks amazing. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBRA3MO3AaA ?
looks pretty cool from the video 

Yeah, that one. It is gorgeous. Looks like a Painkiller map. 

Ow. My speakers.


There's a new tourney map in QL too with a similar style (I don't think that's it, altho I'll admit I have only seem it with flat colour textures ;) 

looks way off but otherwise does look cool. 

My understanding is that the DMSP mod by Aardappel is open source and the source is out there somewhere.

Anyone know where I can find the qc source file?

DMSP is a really neat experience.

Plan B is that SuperDuperQuake seems to use dmsp.qc but I'd prefer the straight up original rather than to trying to figure out if anything unwanted changed. 

If you are friends with Biff on Facebook, have you been receiving obvious spam from his account on your walls lately? It seems our poor Biff's Facebook account has been hacked. Anyway we can report this to Facebook or do we just have to un-friend Biff? 

http://www.leveldesign.nl/viewforum.php?f=9

wtf? :D 

Nice, I am definitely in as long as they do not make it more brushes. So far it vastly favours Q3 (and other more advanced engines) though. 

Probably near-impossible to make anything decent with so few brushes. 100b was hard already. 

http://www.chaosquake.de/files/contests/20bcvol2/#intro 

But then, Q3's patches are a huge plus. 

Not long ago I read about (either here or at inside3d, can't find it now) a program that go through wads and remove duplicate textures. Anyone recall the name of it and where I could download it from?