What's a reasonable Quake 2 engine for singleplayer?

Must run on linux, must support OSS sound.

Yamagi (alsa only, wtf?) and things like Aprq2 / aq2 don't work correctly.

Eyecandy is a bonus. 

EGL doesn't compile, kmquake2's makefile is broken, q2xp seems to exist only for windows, yamagi has no sound... fuck this. The gods don't want me to play Quake 2. 

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1924-Shadow-of-the-Colossus

Yes. 

Altho beware the completely pointless, unavoidable new pop-out framing device when you click play.

WHY?!?!? 

Surely you jest ?
There's a heap of engines here http://qudos.quakedev.com/linux/quake2/engines/ with QuDos's own having the most amazing cell shading. 

http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/15619 

A thought has just occured to me. Was QMap web 2.0 several years before web 2.0 became the norm?

User driven content. Clean, down toned interface. Bright, text free icons. And created in 00 (or possibly 99, but iirc 00).


(this comes after reading an old Peej interview on TSFPSDD. Don't ask why I was on tho. It involves stalking. Also, I think it may need updating... ;) 

things qmap didn't have: "AJAX", a clever domain name where the TLD spells the last part of a word (like "del.icio.us"), gradient color fills, rss feeds/syndication, "tag clouds".

But of course, qmap and other messageboards of the 90s already did most of the "user-generated content" that later got called web 2.0.

I've actually thought there could be ways to evolve func into a more 2.0 style, but haven't had a lot of time to do anything about it (plus what we have works fairly well.) 

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/12/carmack-blows-minds-with-id-softwares-rage-running-on-iphone-a/ 

i thought we weren't going to talk about that..? 

Yeh. It's 'unimpressive' and neither pc nor console. I thought this was decided? 

I was actually thinking about Peej's description (and ofc implementation) of moderator approved, user submitted news as a way to allow the end users to create their own content.

And please don't add web 2.0 nonsense to func. While I approve of it in terms of social networking and cloud computing esque 'applications', I can't really see anything that would beneficial to the site rather than gimmicks for the sake of modernism. Frankly I like that the site is this little backwater of the internet rather than all singing, all dancing 2.0 malarky.

In fact, I'm generally more interested in the concepts around web 3.0 than the 2.0 gubbins anyway (the dawn of 'pure' content from a variety of sources with presentation/access defined by users. RSS is kinda like the cave paintings to dutch masters of the final implementation). There was a good article of iA about it a while back, I'll see if I can find it and post a link (and triple post in the doing so). 

Damn. Can't find it. I blame the fact it's 4am.

If you wanna try having a look; http://informationarchitects.jp/

(quite a lot of interesting stuff on their tbh. they're good at what they do).


(and 'the dutch masters'. obviously) 

there is one more Q3 dm map to be posted as a news item in the near future.

You may want to not read Func news for about a month till that news item gets buried or at least take some meds to calm yourself if you have to read every news item. 

Maybe it'd be interesting to see some Carmack love on the 3DS? 

Does everyone have func_ocd so they have to remove every new "new post" link?


Does anyone have experience with CodeIgniter? I started working on Quaddicted again and my code is a terrible mess so I thought it might be a good idea to try a framework and MVC. 

Nitin shows his fangs :D 

Quake 2. There's a good engine called, errr, Quake 2. 

none of them work for me, much like i wrote :-P not jesting.

Most have a sound problem - I use OSS4. AprQ2 has monsters that don't wake up when I dance naked in front of them (might be my fault, sure, but I guess the Makron would still want them to fight?) Other engines, like I wrote, don't support Linux or simply crash, or fail to build even. The state of Q2 engines is pretty poor.

I got yamagi running after setting SDL_AUDIODRIVER to either dsp or dma, can't remember, and another pretty obscure SDL environment variable called SDL_DSP_NOSELECT. I didn't want a degree in SDL though, I just wanted to play Quake 2. :-(

Note that most other apps have no problem with my sound system, and I usually have no problem compiling stuff, I use gentoo.

Most of these engines are also ANCIENT. I don't think Qudos updates his stuff anymore. 

email aguire. 

Thanks for the laughs.

Nitin, thank you for posting the Q3 map news. It's always welcome and I always check out the screenshots at the very least. 

Carmack on 3DS. Yeh, that could be interesting. Could also be gimmicky, but if anyone could do something epic with the tech it'd be carmack.

I dunno if you listened to his address, but I was actually quite intriqued when he was talking about wanting to work on head mounted displays... 

http://kotaku.com/5611331/nerdy-real-life-superheroes-to-keep-city-safe-from-bullies-jocks

I blame Kick Ass 

waiting for someone to get killed ala TDK... won't be as amusing then. 

... the police for such "actions" ? Or these guys are really stupid, or they are really irresponsible and unware of the dangers they could face.
I wonder what would if they try their super-power onto a columbian narcotic gang as example :P