Yes, Dammit
#18974 posted by Spirit on 2010/07/19 13:59:11
The new ones are much better because they used special effects!
Unreally...
#18975 posted by generic on 2010/07/19 14:34:15
When I played Unreal for the first time, I had already completed Quake, Hexen II, Quake II, Half-life, Heretic II, and most of SIN. I am not saying that the game didn't contribute anything to the FPS genre but, by that time, it wasn't offering much more than what I had already seen.
Jpl
#18976 posted by nitin on 2010/07/19 14:35:54
day the earth stood still original shits all over the remake.
War of the Worlds not so much IMHO, but the original holds its own in storytelling, the remake has much better effects and uses them well to be successful as an action adventure.
Huh
#18977 posted by Drew on 2010/07/19 14:38:55
I didn't think anyone had seen The Day The Earth Stood Still remake.
Also
#18978 posted by nitin on 2010/07/19 14:39:15
storytelling is not the same as story.
Drew
#18979 posted by nitin on 2010/07/19 14:39:56
I had to, just to see how bad it could be.
Yeah
#18980 posted by Tronyn on 2010/07/19 19:01:04
I agree about judging old games by the standards of their times; I also think that the new/old movies things can apply to new/old games - new games seem a lot flashier and more shallow (hollywoodized) than games 10 years ago. It's harder to make new intellectual property in both games and movies now.
This Is....
#18981 posted by JPL on 2010/07/19 20:55:50
... evilution of Humanity :P
Neg, Demos That Start From Map Loading
#18982 posted by necros on 2010/07/19 22:34:03
how do you do that? that seems like an invaluable thing for testing. a lot of times, i've died more than half way through and have no first run demo of the last part of a map.
#18983 posted by negke on 2010/07/19 22:42:42
After dying, stop the current demo recording. Disconnect. Then start a new recording in the console but without entering the map name this time. Load the savegame.
It's indeed an invaluable method - doing a demo of one's "first run" should always be understood as recording a demo of the "first run-THROUGH", particularly for beta testing. Otherwise, it's pretty useless.
!
#18984 posted by necros on 2010/07/20 01:36:51
that's awesome! i never knew you could do that, thanks!
#18985 posted by gb on 2010/07/20 04:19:45
Tronyn: Yet the same doesn't apply to books, or music. There is still heaps of good music, just not in the mainstream charts... there are also heaps of good films for example coming out of Scandinavia or Germany. It's just that no one in Hollywood notices.
The Hollywood comparison is an america-centric view.
#18986 posted by gb on 2010/07/20 04:22:08
negke: It's not useless to see where the player died, and the stuff that happened before that can still contain valuable info.
Books Have Gone Way Backwards Imho
#18987 posted by stevenaaus on 2010/07/20 09:23:37
Partly because of the dilution of talent to other media, partly lost skills, and also because the printing press is so accessible. (Look at the quality of the average forum post on the web). Not to say classics don't happen anymore, but they're hard to find.
Everything has changed anyway.. there's no chance i'd ever get round to reading tolstoy or hugo today. We're just too artsy busy with crappy electronic stuff i love like games, sport, cinema, music.
...Today my box set of Kinski/Herzog arrived from the UK for 18 quid ;>
Oh, It Does Apply To Music And Books
#18988 posted by megaman on 2010/07/20 09:42:14
just that the timespans are much longer. Shakespeare or Music from the 17th/18th century doesn't appeal to me, while Music with the same instruments from this (or the last) century does.
Gb
#18989 posted by negke on 2010/07/20 10:34:11
Yes, but if the demo ends after only a couple of seconds, it leaves the rest of the map untested.
Books??
#18990 posted by Shambler on 2010/07/20 11:25:11
Alistair Reynolds, China Meiville, Iain (M) Banks, Greg Egan, Paul Auster, Christopher Priest, Jeffrey Ford nuff said.
Well
#18991 posted by Zwiffle on 2010/07/20 14:25:32
I've read a couple Alistair Reynolds and Iain Banks, imo they are no Watership Down. I actually just finished Chasm City this week, after forcing myself to slough through it for the past several months. It was actually really awful. Revelation Space was at least average-ish.
Would like to try that China Meiville person, but I'd expect to be slightly disappointed as well.
Zwiffle
Do you like anything?
Your Mom
#18993 posted by Zwiffle on 2010/07/20 15:08:01
No, I kid, I don't like her either.
/asshole
Zwiffle.
#18994 posted by Shambler on 2010/07/20 16:58:16
You need to drink enough household chemicals to wipe out the part of your deluded little turd of a brain that is responsible for understanding language and the written word, because you clearly can't be trusted with it.
Of course they aren't Watership Down because they're not fucking outdated kids books about fucking rabbits!! Banks and Reynolds produce some of the sharpest, most creative, imaginative, and punchily written books of recent times. Okay they happen to mostly be in the sci-fi genre but ffs talking rabbits.
I despair.
Func Is Pretty Intense These Days
#18995 posted by Drew on 2010/07/20 16:59:44
Dude
#18996 posted by Zwiffle on 2010/07/20 17:14:09
Chasm City was sharp to you? That book is not worth something really worthless.
Beestings. It's not worth beestings. Whatever, you know what I mean.
Watership Down was a great story, what I've read of Alistair Reynolds and Iain M Banks were not. Of course you wouldn't make the connection. Forget the genres, they're just not good books. I mean seriously, unless you like book-versions of made-for-tv Syfy movies.
Dudess.
#18997 posted by Shambler on 2010/07/20 17:55:08
Yes, sharp. Hard sci-fi concepts presented clearly and succinctly to give them a good impact.
Clearly you know nothing of stories or book quality. Are you sure human is your first language??
Beestings = your cock.
#18998 posted by Zwiffle on 2010/07/20 18:05:40
Human is not a language, perhaps that's your problem. American, mother fucker, do you speak it?
As for Chasm City, forget the hard sci-fi concepts, (of which only 2 or 3 presented I thought were interesting in any capacity) the story sucked hard. The characters were really flat, the dialogue literally made me groan out of disgust, and the 'twists' were both predictable and lamentable, mainly because they added absolutely nothing to the story.
Excession, on the other hand, forced me to wonder why there were any human characters in it at all. The only reason there seemed to be human characters was so they could fuck in zero Gs and make stupid comments about pointless shit. For people who lived for centuries they sure acted like a bunch of fucking angsty teenagers. The ships themselves were the only interesting thing (truly, they were very interesting,) but regrettably were so nondescript and generic they essentially became background props for said zero G fucking. Also, the story was pointless and I wish the main characters ended up dying in a very horrible way, yet somehow, for some reason, ended up getting exactly what they wanted. Fucking rubbish.
Arther C Clarke, mother fucker.
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