Never once have I claimed to be perfect or incapable of a grammatical or spelling error.

Correct. You haven't. You've only questioned the legitimacy of others' posts based on such things. Hypocrisy much?

If you sent me a box of shit, I wouldn't verbally bash you in front of others...I'd just look inside, see that its not something I want and continue with my life.

Of course. I'm sure that's exactly how you'd react. Even if it were delivered during a party, and unveiled with a flourish in front of all your friends, and someone were saying "Hey, what do you think of this?"

Bottom line: People (newbies, experts, and pros alike) post maps and screens here on a daily basis and get helpful, friendly feedback. This time it didn't happen.

Concluding that we're all judgmental stuck-up assholes is, at best, oversimplification (there are a lot of us who aren't all three, at least...or at least not all the time...or...well...shit), and at worst, is missing the point entirely.

That's all from me--this is cutting into my copious free time.

Oh, and this:
an oiled up set of money tits
is awesome and made me laugh. 

Has mapping really slowed down this much?
If we put this much energy into something like Rune 2 which at last count had over 5000 signatures for making the game,maybe something good would happen ya think? 

Rune 2 you say ... intriguing concept. 

This is a good preassure valve to read after pissing around with archaic editors.

I've stopped drinking, so this is as good as it gets for now.

Ah well:

http://blog.taptu.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/ballmer_peak_cartoon.jpg 

Wouldn't oiled up money tits be kinda scratchy? 

And links to the maps please, not screenshots, that proves nothing.


declare it illegal without cause

No. It's just plain illegal. 

shut up and go map 

And Vondur rules all. 

Well said, V. 

"Wouldn't oiled up money tits be kinda scratchy?"

No, they are smooth and luscious. 

I am mapping. Converter script is running in the background atm... 

Go fuck yourself buddy. :)

I'm not gonna post more links for you, so you can ignore them and continue to be a dickless troll.

Lets see a screenie of something you've made.

Then, maybe, I'll link you to a .bsp 

For the coagula 3 competition, with his start map!

http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/screen_shots/coag3_start.jpg

(Hosted on Willems dedicated Quake filebase site) 

"Bottom line: People (newbies, experts, and pros alike) post maps and screens here on a daily basis and get helpful, friendly feedback. This time it didn't happen."


NO, this time the exact opposite happened.

It wasn't that nothing happened as you seem to be implying.

You actually gave him shitty, meanspirited, and worthless feedback and many of you seemingly did so intentionally because he was a newb and you knew you could trash him with impunity and possibly even the support of your fellow stuck up circlejerkers.

One of you even went so far as to act like he treated you all disrespectfully by posting this map, solely because it is a rip.

you don't see the distinction between that and a simple lack of positive helpful feedback? 

"because he was a newb and you knew you could trash him with impunity"

No, he was trashed because he re-compiled an old map for a new game which takes precisely zero talent and creativity. New guys are more than welcome if they want to actually make a map. 

So you're saying that you've decided that what you consider creativity and talent are now preconditions for uploading a map somewhere for people to look at?

Perhaps there should be a disclaimer on the main page that says:

"Make sure you check out with willem so he can decide if you have enough talent and creativity to post something."

because ya know, you're the one who decides that for everyone. 

"So you're saying that you've decided that what you consider creativity and talent are now preconditions for uploading a map somewhere for people to look at? "

Yep. That's exactly what was said. Good job. 

I wanted to make sure I was hearing you correctly thru the money tits that you're undoubtedly blathering into while you work so very hard at being a complete ass. 

What's that? I couldn't hear your through my money face mask. 

I know you're a one trick pony and all, but seriously, try not to wear out the tiny amount of hilarity left in the only joke you know.

Got any maps on the burner? I'd love to see what your input to the quake community looks like, beyond crappy overused one-liners ofc. 

What's that? I can't hear you because I'm fucking your mother with my money condom.

I'll break out another trick once you show me that you're interested in having a conversation. At the moment, you're trolling, so this is what you get in return. Enjoy! 

you cannot seriously argue that ZLZ showed any creativity or talent in using third party, automated software to rip off someone else's rip off of a good map.

Oh, and before you intentionally read that far too literally, I'd like to clarify that I'm not DENYING you the RIGHT to argue that point, I'm just saying it would be ridiculous to do so.

I'd also like to clarify that as far as I'm aware, nobody here picked on ZLZ specifically because he's new. Plenty of new people have posted things in the past but received much more positive responses based upon the content of their post. 

I didn't say they picked on him specifically because he is new, and I did not imply that the rip took talent or creativity.

Nice attempt at mouthstuffing to support your non-argument. You're either not very good at this trolling thing you're trying to do, or your reading comprehension is pretty shitty.


What I implied with my statements is that they felt like they could pick on him without any negative repercussions because he is new, and because they had passed judgement that he was talentless and not creative based on a single offering that offended them. (an offering which I doubt shows the extent of his abilities) 

No, the people here will pick on anyone. Him being new had nothing to do with it. Wipe your cheeks and try again. 

"Got any maps on the burner? I'd love to see what your input to the quake community looks like"

I'm legitimately trying to gauge what it is you actually do here other than post witless insults and bicker about copyright law.