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tested a bit. I don't have q3 so I downloaded some of lunaran's q3 maps from www.lunaran.com. They use some baseq3 textures so they're mostly white for me though. :(
I downloaded aardappel's dmsp mod: http://wouter.fov120.com/maps/dmsp/index.html put the pk3s in the dmsp dir. darkplaces: just started with -game dmsp, and after getting rid of a lot of fps killer stuff and hanging the client a couple of times in the process, i loaded up the map. It complained of no info_player_start so (thanks spike) i tried with deathmatch 1. That did the trick. fte: if i ran with deathmatch 1, it used qw style, so i had to type "progs progs" and then it ran fine. Lun3dm1 didn't spawn any weapons except the lg (funny that that entity is the same then) and stuff generally worked somewhat. Teleports didn't work in fte at least yet. The monsters seemed to work pretty ok, and didn't feel that out of place... though i had mostly no level textures and it was a brief stint anyway. Could someone point to a q3 level pk3 that contains all it's textures? All in all, i'm surprised how well it worked and think that q1sp and qw with q3bsp might have a future! A better list and accompanying screenshots at http://skynet.campus.luth.se/~chosen/bam/q3/
check 29.. -monsters drop into brushes? -teles don't work (fte, acknowledged) -some teles don't work (dp) -teletex borked (fte) -lamps don't work (both) dunno what precise tech problem -jumppads don't work, player is stuck slowly (both) -healthboxes don't always render right, sometimes get just luma (fte at least) -really low fps at times when many monsters (dp at least) -skybox doesn't work, is shaded (missing texture or tech prob?) need baseq3 textures or some basic repository (not tech but mapper responsibility, must be organized) OR id1 etc texes loaded from a wad or something. (since ppl prolly can't distribute id etc texes as jpegs) Or then just custom texes but that partly defeats the purpose. It would be nice to do proper tests since now it's a bit hard to know if it's just the dmsp mod that fucks up or the engine. The teleporter, jumppads, and other entity problems you listed are not actual problems due to the q3bsp format.
These problems are due to the way the entities are set up for Quake 3, which in most cases differs from their Q1 equivalents. i'm ignorant as ever, just trying to get this thing moving a bit...
I still think the only real way is to make a proper q1-entified q3bsp. Then you can say what works and what not. Here are
http://rapidshare.de/files/5692289/ents_9-05.zip.html They are 90% done. If you don't have Q3 get the demo which has q3tourney2,q3dm1,7,17. My experiments with TGA files -- and I believe someone said earlier in this thread that the Q3 format can use jpg or tga -- indicate that TGA files with an 8 bit (aka 256 color) palette have around the same, if not smaller, file size than PCX files.
In otherwords, a WAD --> LMP --> PCX --> TGA (8 bit, 256 color palette) would be the same filesize with no loss or change in textures. Bake: nobrainer. they are still 8 bit bitmaps
bambuz: the white polys are shaders that DP or fte fails to parse, you are not missing the textures (or actually could be either) ad of going to the office and actually meeting people for a change. Maybe you shouldn't try to be such a fucking antisocial slut!
an interesting post at one spam-ridden board, RetroQuake: http://retroquake.planetquake.gamespy.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=30836
This was posted by a spambot, but a non-malicious one. Follow the links and read about the project. Thanks for the link. This seems to be specifically geared towards securing phpbb, though. Some of the general ideas would apply to this board but I'm not willing to give up anonymous posting, which I think is important for encouraging casual visitors to post.
So my tricks area all attempts to foil the bot in ways (almost) invisible to the user, such as IP address checks, javascript, cookies... wrong thread
It wasn't really a suggestion to secure this board, since it's pretty spam-free. It was more of a consoling feeling that someone's actually trying to put a spotlight on this issue from a spammer's perspective. The online world seems otherwise to be rapidly drowning in a diarrhea of nonsensical noise |
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