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Yippee!!!
#16877 posted by RickyT33 on 2009/06/05 15:52:16
I just burst my WAMP/Wordpress cherry!
OMG, purely academic commotion.
Im sooo happy, but I have nobody here where I work to express it to. I recon I will have "RickyT23's Base Maps For N00bs" site compiled, er, eventually...
Quake Sell Screen
#16878 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/06/06 17:51:17
Probably old news to everyone but me but I got around to adding LMP previewing into my PAK editor and came across the sell screen for Quake. It sort of screams "placeholder" to me but you be the judge...
http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/screen_shots/QuakeSellScreen.jpg
Actually, I've Never Seen That.
Interesting!
#16880 posted by metlslime on 2009/06/06 23:43:28
Funny... Yeah, I guess they just decided to pop up the help screen instead, which has ordering info anyway.
Logitech Mx5-- Mice
#16881 posted by necros on 2009/06/07 02:40:36
and possibly others:
does the thin plastic/rubbery coating over the majority of the mouse (the sides and center surrounding the mouse wheel) tend to start peeling off for you guys?
i love these mice, they work forever and fit my hand comfortably but the two i own both have the damn plastic covering peeling off.
it's like a snake shedding it's skin. -_-
#16882 posted by Spirit on 2009/06/07 09:54:14
Yes, it is kinda disgusting. I'm gonna find me a new one soon.
#16883 posted by gb on 2009/06/07 21:25:55
I have an MX518 which I ended up never using, because my hands are too small and I don't like the form. I finally got me a Razer Krait which is perfect for me.
If someone wants the 518, ask.
Brilliant
#16884 posted by megaman on 2009/06/08 14:44:11
#16885 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/06/08 15:07:09
tl;dr
What's the idea?
Megaman:
#16886 posted by metlslime on 2009/06/08 23:29:11
nice. I'll probably have to read that another three times to understand everything.
Bots?
#16887 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/06/09 12:35:28
Say, what's the bot of choice these days for DM fun?
I Recommend The Good Old Reaperbot
#16888 posted by RickyT33 on 2009/06/09 12:55:55
reaper081 or something like that, dead easy to use, addaptive AI, you can record demos which will run under normal Id1 progs....
ftp://ftp.stomped.com/pub/redwood/bots/reaprb81.zip
... And So Stupid.
#16889 posted by negke on 2009/06/09 13:19:53
I think as long as Electro hasn't finished his Shockbot, FrikbotX is the way to go.
Reaperbot/frikbot
#16890 posted by spy on 2009/06/09 16:56:49
guys you should be kidding? these bots are really suxx, frogbot rules, just ask Trinca, he has a progs.dat with around 300 maps that frogbot has supporting. and a bot with skill 20 really kicks ass
#16891 posted by gb on 2009/06/09 17:08:20
#16892 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/06/09 17:15:19
I know the Reaper would just learn the level as it played. Do these other bots do the same? I don't want to mess around with having to create waypoint files every time the map changes...
#16893 posted by Spirit on 2009/06/09 17:16:00
Frogbot is pretty amazing. But I too like Reaper bots the most for some reason.
Willem
#16894 posted by Spirit on 2009/06/09 17:16:47
They need waypoints which might be that ^ reason.
Willem
#16895 posted by spy on 2009/06/09 17:21:51
you don't need to create waypoints for frogbots
as trinca's progs.dat already has supporting for a large amount of maps
i can record a quick demo of duelling frogbots
#16896 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/06/09 17:36:46
What I'm driving at is that I'd like the bots for testing any DM level I might want to create on my own. Files containing waypoints for existing levels won't help me ... the bot needs to be able to be dropped into a level and just play. Know what I mean?
Oh...
#16897 posted by spy on 2009/06/09 17:38:59
i see
Try The Reaper
#16898 posted by RickyT33 on 2009/06/09 17:46:22
If you dont like it I'll give you a full refund!
Im sure the other bots are superior for reason X or reason Y, and honestly ReaperBot is the first bot I got to work for me and I havent tried the others mentioned above. But its dead easy to use Reaperbot, you just run the progs as any other mod, press a key to spawn bots 4 at a time, or 1 at a time, and you're off!
They will attack eachother and you, they learn the map and the location of the items, and where they start off as noobs, they soon begin to kick your ass!
Willem
#16899 posted by spy on 2009/06/09 18:04:14
you should try the omicron bots then, here is a quote from its readme file
This quake add-on contains the following features (and probably a lot more):
Dynamic level learning: The omicron bots can quickly learn any level, and remembers where things are as it plays... Try it on a level you don't know, and the bot will know the level "by heart" before you figure out how to get from A to B. Once the bot has "learned" a level, you can easily take that knowledge and put it into the BSP itself. From then on, the bot won't have to relearn that level; it will know it from the start.
Optional anti-camper feature; This enables you to weed out all those happy outdoor type people. Make the rain fall...yeah.
Advanced routing: Not only does it remember where things are, but it also can plot the shortest route to them, taking into account existing teleporters. It can find enemies in a similar fashion; if it knows where you are, it might come and make a visit.
Hearing: The omicron bot can actually "hear" and "understand" some of the sounds around it. If the obot hears you pick something up, for instance, it might figure out where you are. If it does, it might very well decide to come over and put you in backpack mode.
Pursuit AI: Using its advanced (AI SPRUCE) routing, the omicron bot can be a hard tail to shake. Not only can it chase you down, but it can sometimes use existing map features to actually cut you off at the pass.
Fuzzy logic: The bot uses fuzzy logic in it's AI. It isn't as impressive as it sounds, or so Mr. E. tells me. This allows it an amount of flexibility when making decisions and allows those decisions to appear much more intelligent.
Team Support: Not only does the obots support teamplay, it actually supports teamplay with multiple teams!
Individualized characters: There are 24 different bots, each with its own respective skin and phrases. You can either choose to load up a random character, or if you have a favorite bot, you can ask for it by name.
Bot-Cam: The omicron bot provides an observer mode that allows you to see through the eyes of a client (i.e. bot or player) of your choice, or to follow him in "supersmooth chase-cam"(tm) mode.
Deathmatch 3 and 4. (love dm3..still don't know about dm 4)
Optional powerup/weapon removal; The admin can optionally bar the use of of the quad, pentagram(or 666 as I like to call it), invisibility and several of the weapons as he/she sees fit.
Randomize maps and cycle maps feature, which makes you jump around quake maps (and other custom maps) to your own liking, ignoring those you hate and dispize (maps, not people that is).
Several difficulty levels for the bots; from skill 0 to 3. Actually the difficulty is for you, the player. The higher their skill, the easier you are to kill.
RocketArena!!! See http://planetquake.com/servers/arena/ for more detailed information (it's RA 1 B.T.W.).
Hardcoded waypoints for all deathmatch levels of the original Quake. So it saves you the time of making your own crummy BSP waypoints and then complaining to us that the bots suck. Which we already know....so try and make a better bot yourself..from scratch...HA!!! (Note: this editorial was not put here by Mr E., who wishes to apologize for the entire contents of this readme)
ROCKETJUMPING!!!! (I heard that some of the Beta testers themselves were whining over this bit for weeks..this is why it was included last...it had a priority of 1; 0 means...we're not going to do anything about it).
#16900 posted by Trinca on 2009/06/09 18:05:23
Willem someone is working in such a bot ;)
Let�s see what happend!
#16901 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/06/09 18:05:42
Ricky
Yeah, I used to use Reapers way back in the day when I did my map review site. Thanks, I'll probably go with them since I know them already.
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