#16703 posted by Zwiffle on 2009/04/23 23:58:01
#16704 posted by necros on 2009/04/24 01:17:54
watching those things float around is badass!
Hmm
#16705 posted by nonentity on 2009/04/24 01:31:31
Oh, and all kinds of smrat from author of one of the better books on file sharing (pdf of which is on most trackers ;)
http://thepiratesdilemma.com/the-tao-of-pirates/everybody-lost-the-pirate-bay-trial
#16706 posted by RickyT33 on 2009/04/24 01:40:50
The fact that they didn�t do so ten years ago cost a generation of artists billions. No-one is ever going to trial for that.
Yup
#16707 posted by metlslime on 2009/04/24 09:23:52
this is a tough question, i mean which zero-nuance extreme-end-of-the-spectrum opinion do I agree with?
On the one hand there is the belief that intellectual property is a harmful legal contrivance, and that the government should not enforce any sort of monopoly rights for intangible creations. Probably the assumption is that, either art would be created in the same volumes as today, or that we don't really need this much art and a smaller supply of free art would be better. I guess if you believe this, you already don't pirate the sorts of art that wouldn't be produced at all without the assurance of copyright protection.
On the other hand the the belief that since intellectual property is a good idea in general, then the current state of the copyright law must be the optimal balance between the interests of creators, and the public good. This probably includes a assumption that copyright law isn't written disproportionately by and for the largest copyright-holding corporations. Since the law is the law, you shouldn't infringe copyright. Or jaywalk.
Art \in IP
#16708 posted by SleepwalkR on 2009/04/24 10:04:34
Artworks is only a part of the goods that IP applies to. What about games, software, non-fiction books? I wouldn't say that those can be qualified as art (maybe contain some art).
Sleepy:
#16709 posted by metlslime on 2009/04/24 10:37:53
I meant "art" in the really broad sense, meaning creative works.
For The 2 People That Don't Have It Already
If you haven't noticed yet, the Orange Box is supposedly going for $10 this weekend on Steam.
Hate Me Shambler, Hate Me Tight
#16711 posted by Spirit on 2009/04/25 11:19:12
No thanks! Even for free I would not install Steam.
#16712 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/04/25 11:35:23
Yes, you wouldn't want to install ease and convenience on your computer. Heaven forbid.
#16713 posted by DaZ on 2009/04/25 14:57:12
Yes, you wouldn't want to install ease and convenience on your computer. Heaven forbid.
This :)
#16714 posted by Spirit on 2009/04/25 17:50:03
The experience I had with Steam was quite the opposite but it was a childish post from me so let's just pretend it never happened.
No
#16715 posted by ijed on 2009/04/25 18:05:54
Funcers will never forget this insult.
Help
#16716 posted by madfox on 2009/04/26 20:15:20
I'm a funcer
At Least Not
#16717 posted by ijed on 2009/04/26 22:23:48
A Mother Funcer.
I Have Steam.
#16718 posted by Shambler on 2009/04/28 18:17:43
But not the Orange box.
When's Ep3 coming out?
Also. The stealing thing. Oh nevermind it's bloody fucking obvious.
Shambler
#16719 posted by ijed on 2009/04/28 19:23:53
You Funcy mother, you missed out - it's back to $30.
Shambler
#16720 posted by starbuck on 2009/04/29 14:05:19
last i heard, early 2010. I paid �30 for the orange box and it was well worth it btw.
2010?!
#16721 posted by negke on 2009/04/29 14:55:04
So much for "episodic content=faster111".
If you're smart, you buy the Orange box from ebay.com. I did so and saved a lot of money. Around half of the official price. Same with L4D: Steam's ripoffer=30 Eur, I got it for 14.
Shambler
#16722 posted by bal on 2009/04/29 16:38:30
You haven't played Portal? I'd imagine you enjoying it.
Orange box is easily worth $100!
#16723 posted by starbuck on 2009/04/29 17:09:39
If you're smart, you buy the Orange box from ebay.com. I did so and saved a lot of money. Around half of the official price. Same with L4D: Steam's ripoffer=30 Eur, I got it for 14.
Isn't there a risk that someone already has it registered to their steam account? I'd be scared to buy a steam game off eBay, but I don't know if I'm scared for no raisins.
Portal
#16724 posted by ijed on 2009/04/29 17:10:57
Is what happens when a AAA studio who's actually worth the description tries to make an indie game.
I wasn't as bowled over as everyone else, it seems, but its one of those games that will be in almost every 'history of games timeline' together with the Orange Box.
From What I've Read
#16725 posted by starbuck on 2009/04/29 17:15:11
Valve really weren't involved that heavily, beyond giving the original narbacular drop dev team desks to work at, a copy of source, and maybe an engine tech dude to work part time.
Sure
#16726 posted by ijed on 2009/04/29 17:23:25
But they basically take over / consume small dev teams that they like - similar to L4D / Turtle Rock.
Hmm
#16727 posted by nonentity on 2009/05/01 14:11:28
3-3 drawn series. 7 over times in 6 games (that's 6 minutes off of having already played a full 7th game). One of the most legendary playoff series ever (especially for a 1st round series)...
And it's not on _any_ UK TV channel!
Stupid country.
(Bulls vs Celtics for those who don't like awesomeness)
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