what the fuck does it matter what the name of their site is? or if they were rude of polite about how they responded to cease and desists? 

If they're going to posture that they didn't know what the site was being used for, the name of the site and their attitudes betray that claim. 

Quick comparison. In the case of Roe v. Wade (yes, US law I know, but it's a famous case), if Roe had be a prostitute/slut/detestable nazi bitch, would that have justified a continued ban on abortions for all women in America? 

How is that a comparison to anything being discussed in this thread? 

 

i forgot my planetquake account 

...did warez.

Fact. 

had to call myself FadMox at planet Quake, because someone cracked my name.

Then I saw IRC reports from me, which sounded a lot like a word generator with lots of my posts fom func. 

Then I saw IRC reports from me, which sounded a lot like a word generator with lots of my posts fom func.

There's a certain irony there I think... 

== lolz 

Works every time, baby. 

stupid per se. I was calling him stupid when he used that argument. Actually, my memory saved it as "his argument was stupid" and i was surprised i didn't word it as that.

I am calling him close-minded and unfocused, because he isn't actually answering any of my arguments and just repeats on and on in his "BLA PIRAZY IS BAEEEEEED!" opinion (indeed at least one of the better), so the result is a soup of unanswered arguments, which makes a discussion not worthwhile (to me).

Also note that i'm only vaguely on the side of the pirate bay, i'm just stating whatever arguments i didn't see properly used, for the fun of the argument (i like discussions [not necessarily on the intardnet though]). 

and i forgot my main point:

http://linuxreviews.org/news/2005/02/10_way_to_go_sweeden/

What i remembered was that before that, swe had quite liberal laws regarding copyright (but i didn't /don't have safe sources for that), which pretty much would justify all of the attitude they had. the answers to the letters were stating exactly this liberality. That's why sleepwalkers argument was so stupid: he didn't know squat about the swe laws and still insisted that they were stupid because they seemingly didn't know about the swe laws :)

Oh, and pardon the use of one-syllable words, i'm not a native speaker. Should we continue this discussion in German and rate based on syllables? 

maybe you should re-read your posts before you submit them. I usually don't like discussions on the internet either, and most of the posts I write for this board never get submitted because I know that there usually is someone who will drag the discussion into the mud.

I just thought I'd chime in here because it's an interesting topic and I still wonder how you can not understand that piracy is stealing, and should therefore not be condoned. But I guess you cannot explain that. Either your moral compass is adjusted like that, or it isn't. 

a brick wall here.

Megaman - Please keep making killer maps, and dont get into law/law breaking :P 

Incredibly bias reporting source, but lawls none the less;

http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-lawyer-is-biased-calls-for-a-retrial-090423/ 

Also, I've only just noticed the slightly misleading (and humourous) URL of that article... 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TeYqvpk-A&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div 

i don't see how anybody could think copyright infringement is stealing.

A thief takes something away. Copying doesn't. The sum of the good on the world is actually larger, while with theft it's equal. 

Can you explain how someone copying my IP is good for me as the IP holder? 

He never said it was good, he said it wasn't the same thing as stealing. 

... to recover the money you invested.
I'm working in an IP provider company (i.e Bluetooth and 802.11 IP), and believe me, when you (or your company) invest 1$ you (or your company) want to recover it, and make money by selling the IP several times...
So if somebody comes and copy your stuff, will you make money ? No, because you lost a customer, and you can consider somebody has stolen your IP: That is as simple as this.. 

"He never said it was good, he said it wasn't the same thing as stealing."

Actually, he specifically used the word good:

"A thief takes something away. Copying doesn't. The sum of the good on the world is actually larger, while with theft it's equal." 

I actually converted to a "piracy is kinda bad" attitude but mostly because I embrace free stuff (as in CC, BSD, GPL etc) nowadays.


Never ever think that someone who copied something would have paid for it. Never. Ever. 

Less evil != good. It means less evil.