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Vista is Microsoft force feeding us shit.
Linux - for jobless geeks only.
Macs might get you laid, but you'll have to pay and pay.

XP has a colour scheme for autistics, but is destined to live forever....
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Metal... 
... and not all is about Music :0 
Re: I Say This Not As A Consumer, But A Certified Apple Technician. 
This goes into my Save File.

Just perfect. 
L:inux Mint 17 
haha. It all started so well... But some tough work now. What a pile of crap some linux software is. But Mint 17 seems pretty good i guess.

Anyone got El Capitan running smoothly ? There seem a lot of bug reports. 
 
In before spirit freaks. 
 
Most troubles with installing or running software in my work are from Mac users. 
Can Confirm 
spirit freaks. 
El Capitan Is Nice 
Haven't had many issues, many things are smoother than before. One issue I had, but it might not be related to El Capitan at all, was that yesterday my Time Machine volume got corrupted and I lost all my backups. Other than that, it has been smooth so far. 
 
El Capitan has had no issues for me. It is actually noticeably faster in many ways and in some things quite a bit faster and I'd like to seem more upgrades like El Capitan. It seems to be almost exclusively a performance upgrade version.

[I'm not fond of a couple of minor UI changes for searching and I hate that they've changed the green "zoom" button to be forced full screen, but that's minor.] 
 
Time Machine volume got corrupted and I lost all my backups.
Ummm... That's not good !
But i'll give it a go sometime. 
 
Does it support ext filesystems or at least ntfs out of the box by now? 
Re 
Steven, the corruption is probably not related to El Capitan at all. It happened a couple of weeks after upgrading.

Spirit, I think it has read only support for NTFS, not sure about write. Ext, not that I am aware. 
Going Gimp 
Really - i can't open a jpeg file in the gimp , and then save it. Save only works for their native format xcf ( i have to export). Wtf!?
.... GThumb can't have more that 1 instance open. Firefox is constantly f-ing up. Why can't the idiot devs of these projects stop breaking them ?

The project i forked from, idiot dev removed all permanent sort functionality, and a heap of other stuff, kidding himself he's the Steve Jobs of C++ coding, wile he's just another C code monkey on steroids with a stupid idea he can make *any* design decision. The new GUI/button-menus don't even post/unpost properly, and he doesnt care.

@Kristian - oh, ok.
I downloaded ElCap and have made a sparseimage with CCC for system roll-out. No real bugs yet, and looks ok... but i hardly do testing, as still use my Lion system for personal use.

@Sp - File system support is a very tricky thing.
Readonly is probably the best to expect for any modern FS i reckon. They're all so complicated and we don't want to break anything. Hell - The Linux BTRFS isn't even terribly stable in linux, after heaps of loving dev. Recently i had to switch from Reiserfs (the best imho) to Ext3 cause installers don't support it anymore. 
Gimp 
yeah, they made it stupid. you have to 'file->export' now, you can't just save and change the extension. :\ 
Append 
i know that it's a common complaint 'they changed it, now it sucks' but i feel sometimes those kinds of things are legitimate. it's just adding extra clicks. 
I Now... 
Everyone will whinge about changing stuff.
But it's not an export is it. I opened a jpeg. Why can't i save it. 
 
OSS is one big chronic case of "powerful free functionality wrapped in the worst interface possible" 
Post Your Favourite Bad GUI Toolkits 
GTK
Java AWT
Java SWT also sucks but at least you could choose a native look and feel.
Windows XP Fischer-Price actually works fine but christ it's ugly. 
I Just Image Googled "Java" And I Want To Puke. 
 
Cocoa Is The Rare Exception 
 
Tcl/Tk 
 
Lunaran 
I'm offended AND triggered at the same time by that statement! How dare you! 
Motif! 
CDK? The sunos thing, never used that though. Does ActiveX count? That was pretty strong drugs on the programming end. 
 
Motif! Brings tear to my eye. I used the motif themed FVWM and even TWM for ages.

MS have shit GUIs too, but at least they work. Win98se was their best imho. KDE and Gnome 1 were kindof special for me. I just nixed my redhat 7 image this month. Gnome at least have kept a nice ascetic, but it's horribly under powered for me. 
 
"But it's not an export is it. I opened a jpeg. Why can't i save it."

I agree. At the end of the day, it should less about what is "correct" and more about enhancing the user experience. Open a JPG, save a JPG ... seems obvious. 
 
Let's also talk about how shit windows update is! My work computer has been unable to apply about 10 updates for months. I can not find why or what those updates even are. I can search for some numeric error codes and then I get told to 'try again' or use some 'update preparation tool' which does something but does not solve a thing.

Updating a year old archlinux takes less time and just works. Fucking hell. 
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