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I have fond memories of that map, which didn't seem to cause as much of a splash as it should have.
Yeah, that is odd come to think of it. It's just a really cool concept and is executed really well. Maybe cause at the time it required a custom engine before that it was cool to do that? I think it's because it required hipnotic, rather than a custom progs.dat.
I know it turned me off the first time I came across Masque, since I didn't have hipnotic installed at the time. I watched the video (and I watch every one Daz makes, TYVM Daz) and I only spotted one thing that reminded me of hipnotic. That clock looked very familiar. HIP2M2, The Black Cathedral, has the same clock, if I remember correctly.
You can see some glimpses of the clock in Daz's video from about 1:00 to 3:00. He's kinda busy with all the monsters running about, so you don't seem to get a good look at it at any point. There could be other things, but that was the one thing I spotted. Daz you are such a WHORE. I'd have donated a bit if you were putting it towards something you'd need to do the custom derping i.e. a GTX 260....
the last area with the wooden stairs and poky wooden bits holding the entire thing together is awesome. really love that look.
... a cool DaZ's map review... who needs to play Quake map anymore now ? Just let DaZ make it for you :P
No, seriously, DaZ's comments are always interesting and full of sense: keep it up man ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBAEaDOn6z0
Did a video for it as it's the lets play map of the week. Such a cool map! Pretty sure that everyone I listen to on YouTube has a British accent...
Random question which hasn't been researched at all: Have you ever considered analyzing the id1, hip, and rogue maps? The layout and shortcuts are nice. I think the map would have benefitted from giving the SNG earlier. It seems like quite a bit of grinding with low-tier weapons for the longest time, although the video makes it look more bearable. That brash presentation of unaligned wizmet near the end... totally czg!
There's a lot I forgot about this one; the Shambler + minion usage! the shortcuts all having an item or monster on top to lead the player there, the cool interconnectivity.
I did feel a couple of areas could have been expanded upon, namely the exit and SK pickup. A bit more floor space and filler areas would have helped there. When watching I thought 'hah, but you just derped past the GK access!' But then I remember that I did exactly the same. A fiend or ogre through that archway would have fixed everything, making certain the player went through one the door was opened. The rest of the placement is fantastic though. That Vore on the plinth is genius. I just played that one yesterday. Spooky!
It is indeed a great map. Some of the same structural things that I liked about czg07 but a little cozier, and with a theme that feels more Quakeish to me. Also the secret placement is more up my alley. I found 6/7 (I think), just occasionally nosing around and getting a little gold star for my troubles. I can see how folks would prefer more impenetrable secrets that really reward scouring the map, but I don't tend to play that way. I think, are of a very similar style - there arent' any really tough ones - most are just generally rewarding a teensy bit of extra exploration.
BTW is there any actual bonus for getting them all and collecting the runes?
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