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3D View Problem 
happens sometimes. I dont know why. It has happened to me a couple of times, totally weird shit man! I love WC 3.3, and I have an NVidia card, I actually think that the display drivers have an effect on this sometimes.

I Gather that GTK Radiant 1.40 is meant to be mustard. And BSP editor also, and some crazy mappers use QuArK. And Spirit uses blender. That Spirit! 
 
hammer 3.4 
QERadiant Build 147 
...but that's just because I am stuck in my ways and too lazy to figure out a new workflow. 
Happy Oestre 
 
Help! 
Hey could someone recommend a cool map that uses alot of crates? 
 
 
scampie once made a speedmap set inside a crate! 
 
sm120_neg!ke 
 
sm111 actually 
Wow! 
That apsp2 map is totally what I was talking about. THanks 
It�s 
In most (all?) �top ten base maps� and in most �best maps ever� lists. 
It Should Be 
 
Starbuck 
well, technically it was a giant toilet inside a giant crate, which little func_train crates floating in the bowl. 
How Can I Forget 
the wonderful gigantic toilet? A touching tribute to a lifetime of cottaging perhaps? 
Awesome 
Terrafusion 
what happened to it? Did you move to a different irc server? Cant find anyone on gamesurge :o 
DaZ 
Dunno, you should rather use

irc.quakenet.org
6667-6669

This one works for sure ;) 
Hmm 
Join a'ready then... 
Thx JPL 
all sorted 
People Who Whine About DRM And Similar Protection... 
...biggest bunch of tedious spoilt irritating mindless cunts in the gaming scene. Death is too good for them, these people don't even deserve a chance at life in the first place, let alone one with the first world trappings of current computers and the internet.

If I was a bit more flamboyant financially I'd get into the habit of splashing out on DRM games just to show some support and show I just want to play a game and don't give a flying shit about "OMG only having a limited number of activations" (which would have affected Q1/Q2/Unreal/UT, I make that about 15% of the games I own) and all the other horrific and cruel hardships modern gamers have to endure. If I ever meet one of these pathetic dribblers in real life they can endure my Air360s in their ballsac and a litre of my stinking piss on their spotty LCD-tanned face. CUNTS. 
LOL 
litre of my stinking piss on their spotty LCD-tanned face

Quote of the year.

As for DRM, I have mixed feelings.
Non-refundable install limit is total bollocks, as someone could legitimately use them all up and then not be able to play the game again, which considering they PAID for it is total shit!

However, a lot of companies now offer the "refundable" install limit where can you deactivate an install of the game. As long as the tool to do this is easy to use and doesn't piss around then its fine.

Then you have Steam, which is the best way of doing it, as it doesn't affect the end user at all, and you can download and play all your games on any pc with an internet connection. 
So 
What good is DRM? 
Well 
Most of the complaints are pretty ridiculous and just something for tweens to get rant lulls or whatever the fuck about.

I'm a happy steam user <checks> with 38 games and despite it's occasional spaz outs it's pretty good.

The one that did stop me was DOW2 which has two DRM's - Steam and Windows Live. What for?

Probably will buy it someday, but just that 5% of added inconvenience (only for my benefit as a valued customer!) meant I spent the money on a night on the piss instead. 
Hmm 
A fair rant given the level of discourse generally surrounding copy protection/DRM.

However, with DRM specifically I take issue on moral grounds rather than logistical ones (I've never found DRM restrictive in practise, but in my eyes that's actually irrelevant) 
I Think 
generally people have issues with being told how they can use things after they have paid money for it, especially when in cases it means that they cannot use the product they legitimately own any more just because they upgraded their pc / re-installed windows / etc.

Which is a fair point imo. The new Riddick game in particular comes to mind as it has a non-refundable 3 install limit and then thats it, your screwed. A lot of people have started gathering their pitchforks and torches over this.

But saying that, the developers of Riddick have already said that if it turns out that a large percentage of gamers are hitting that 3 install limit then they would raise it, and eventually, a patch will be released that removes the DRM entirely. I think this approach of removing DRM after the product has passed its shelf life is a good idea and I believe a lot of developers/publishers agree.

So does the "angry mob" of anti-drm gamers over-react? I would say yes in many cases, as it makes no sense that a developer would leave that kind of preventative DRM in any game after it has passed its shelf life. I do however agree with the moral argument (as nonentity mentions) that DRM of this kind brings up.

I guess the real question here is that when you buy a game, are you buying that game as a full product that you own, or are you buying the *right* to play that game legally, and therefore, does the developer/publisher have any say on those rights? 
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