Well #3
#16152 posted by Shambler on 2009/01/30 12:55:26
That's what I was trying to make clear in my post. -You- are welcome aboard. You are a good mapper and an interesting commentator on the gaming/mapping scene. I respect you and think you're cool in the usual non-balls-touching kinda way. Same with Ricky and Trinca and pretty much everyone else. So take it for granted that it just banter...
If I have beef with anyone I'll raise that in a boring and sensible way. If I have serious beef than I will completely ignore them.
Sense?
#16153 posted by madfox on 2009/01/30 14:08:07
I'll beat my nickname if you beat yours
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#16154 posted by gb on 2009/01/30 20:21:09
I regularly decide not to press Submit after writing a post here. Or delete most of it.
I'm not saying there are hundreds of people who do this, just some :-/
I'll regret this post soon, but part of me doesn't want to shut up.
Uhm
#16155 posted by madfox on 2009/02/01 14:39:51
I was really surprised by one of the comments I read in this toppic, something like first they beat you with their knowledge, then they harrish you with their experience.
For me it was a sort of scorn I really could compare with as it made me feel what most of the reaktions had done with true reliability(forgive me the word), as it was something I felt since beginning reflecting in a toppic.
On this board I can't say there's something like a moderator that bans you after screwing up things and talking bullshit. But I must agree there were times I really felt pissed off after my intends to answer in the for me commen right way.
Almost like seeing a long post about pishing and knowing that in the end I'll only feel weird and that most toppics are just posted in the sense of the moment. Or as gb writes, there are times I just throw away all before comitting, as it makes me feel a dumbass, trying to answer the candle.
Dude
#16156 posted by RickyT33 on 2009/02/02 10:53:58
Its snowing like hell over here for once! :D
#16157 posted by starbuck on 2009/02/02 11:16:54
i know man. What do we do?
Nothing It Seems
#16158 posted by DaZ on 2009/02/02 11:26:28
as practically no one in my street is at work, and all the kids aren't at school :)
Well My Father
#16159 posted by RickyT33 on 2009/02/02 12:36:26
just set off in his car to Lanarkshire.
I wonder if I will ever see him again!??!
#16160 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/02/02 12:48:01
We just had our snowpocalypse a few weeks back. It rarely snows here and then, WHAM!, 6 inches in one day. The entire area was incapacitated - closed schools, snow day off from work, etc. It melted a few days later and now we're back to normal.
Snowtalk
#16161 posted by megaman on 2009/02/02 13:19:16
all your snow talk.. like you guys are the snow masters. I know how to handle it, but what about new guys? Why can't we be a less snow talking bunch of guys?
Talk like this just reeks of an imminent community meltdown, at least if they're allowed to go by unmediated. Every community has its snowtalkers and I'm sure they consider themselves to be highly cold and fresh, but ultimately it's them, rather than the outside trolls, the ad bots or the idle members that will always ruin things simply out of boredom [i.e. the lack of enough intelligence to think of something more warming to do].
This may seem like harmless fun to some, but it might very well be enough to turn some talented mappers [regardless of whether they have a snow on their lawns or not] away, simply because most people have seen exactly the same shit ruin other websites. It's not new. It's not making the snow melt. Nor are its perpetrators.
In the end it only makes you all look like children who haven't yet learned to control their snowshovel and everybody else gets sick of it pretty quickly. :(
Hmmm
#16162 posted by RickyT33 on 2009/02/02 13:31:28
</throw Snowball> @ Megman
#16163 posted by ijed on 2009/02/02 14:04:29
Ahem
#16164 posted by ijed on 2009/02/02 14:04:41
Megaman
OK, Idea:
#16165 posted by RickyT33 on 2009/02/02 14:23:23
I have missed out on and some of peoples levels, and thinking of sifting though all of the ones I have missed could be a pain in the neck because of all of the filenames and stuff so:
Someone (not me because I suck) could make a tool which will sequence levels say in a mod/maps folder to run one after another by editing the entities lump to change the trigger_changelevels map key in each map so that they play through one after the other.....
OK, its maybe a silly idea for lazy people, but I'd use a tool like that.
Yhatzee
#16166 posted by Shambler on 2009/02/02 15:11:18
"triple cunted hooker" lol.
P.S.
#16167 posted by Shambler on 2009/02/02 15:12:17
*grabs megaman, removes from keyboard, takes outside and buries head-first in nearest snow-drift*
Question For The Techies...
#16168 posted by Mike Woodham on 2009/02/02 15:59:57
P4 2gig, Asus MB, ATI 9700 Pro, wireless card, DVD x 2, HDD x 2, 350W PSU
Everything has been plodding along nicely. I am playing starkmon and just as I get into the first room the computer shuts down instantly (bad map, very naughty map. But no...)
Restart and the MB tells me it is "now booting from Operating System" in her MA accent and the system just hangs with the HDD light on.
Try again, same deal. Disconnect the power from DVD x 2 and HDD x 1 (obviously not the OS HDD) and it boots up OK. One by one I try all of the power supplly plugs and it is apparent that they all have power but as soon as I connect two or more drives it will not boot.
So, this suggests that the PSU is failing to supply enough power when trying to serve more than one device.
What tests can I do to prove/disprove a failing PSU? I don't have a multimeter so cannot actually test the output at each stage. Could one of the devices be drawing too much power for some reason that then affects the overall amount of power available to the HDDs?
I don't have a spare PSU so cannot check that way. I don't have spare cash just to buy another PSU just to check.
I have brown paper, string, paper-clips, bluetac etc.
Over to you guys.
(FMB-BDG, the probable ultimate ending of the possible final finale was vising in the background and was about 20 hours into a 200+ hours vis)
Sorry To Hear This!
#16169 posted by RickyT33 on 2009/02/02 16:08:47
my map blew Mikes computer :(
Asus mobo - my asus mobo switches off when the CPU overheats. could be that? Try CPUZ or whatever its called to see your processor temp when runing vis + Quake
Although that doesnt explain why it happens when you attatch all your drives....
hmmm.
Incidentally I was looking in the side of my computer the other day when I noticed that my PSU says "ATX 750" on the side. Which is weird cause I only paid for a 450w PSU (!) and they gave me an extra 300w without even telling me! Just a shame they fucked up the simple process of attatching the stock intel heat sink to the mobo. Then ran 3dmark06, gave the computer a really crappy score and shipped it anyway (what a bunch of weird computer builders they must be :)
Anyway sorry about that mike, im sure my stroy just adds insult to injury :(
#16170 posted by Spirit on 2009/02/02 16:43:14
Drives do not eat that much power (~10 Watts each is normal as far as I know). Have you tried different cables/adapters?
As the PC boots "a bit" it does not sound like the PSU to me.
Hmm
#16171 posted by nonentity on 2009/02/02 17:07:15
Despite the incendary nature of snow (talk), it is fscking awesome, walking back from pub last night I had half an inch of snow on top of my hood by time I got back. Was epic snow. Tempted to go sledging in my kayak (planing hull ftw)
Update: MW106-b.1
#16172 posted by Mike Woodham on 2009/02/02 17:08:35
RickyT: thanks for the moral support - a problem shared and all that...
Spirit: yes, I have tried changing the cables but nothing so far
Tried running power from another computer that is also running several drives(Heath Robinson eat your heart out) and can now eliminate the PSU as a source of the problem. This also allows me to narrow it down to the primary slave drive.
The BIOS sees the drive OK but this is probably reading data from the drive's electronics, not from the platter.
I need to think a bit more about why it should have crashed during a game of Quake: would the engine be accessing the HDD during play for any reason?
I know the drive is readable as I can see all my files via my Heath Robinson set up. So the drive has not failed.
Mmmmm. Curiouser and curiouser.
Ooo Er Missus, Now There's A Funnny Thing...
#16173 posted by Mike Woodham on 2009/02/02 17:34:34
I use Maxtor drives, always have and never had any problems 'till now.
So, I am looking at my spare Maxtors - a DiamondMax 16 and a DiamondMax Plus 9. Both are Primary Masters set up with 'clean' OSs, one is XP and one is Vista, you know, just in case.
I notice that each has jumper settings that are slightly different when setting them as primary slaves. And I think to myself (what a wonderful world), I know I set the jumper on this slave as a slave so perhaps the jumper has come loose(yeah, I know, fat chance).
But guess what - can ya guess what it is yet, can ya?
This DiamondMax Plus 9 that I use as a slave, the one that causes the computer not to boot, the one that has been in the computer for at least two years, has its jumper set just as I remember - top pins 2 & 3. Only trouble is, that this DiamondMax, different to all the other DiamondMax that I have, clearly shows the jumper settings as - you won't believe it - no jumper required when being used as a slave!!
So I remove the jumper, plug power back in and it boots perfectly.
Of course now I want to know why it worked like that for two years and only decided there was a problem when playing starkmon. Is starkmon a utility disc in disguise?
Who can tell me?
Yeah
#16174 posted by RickyT33 on 2009/02/02 17:42:38
I was wondering when someone would find that feature :)
Now go and make a nice demo!
That's
#16175 posted by necros on 2009/02/02 20:07:01
pretty fucked up. o.0
glad you got it fixed and all, but why the hell was it letting you boot up for all that time with incorrect jumper settings??
_maybe_
#16176 posted by SleepwalkR on 2009/02/02 20:28:09
Just maybe, the crash in Quake didn't have anything to do with the hdd, but forced the BIOS to reinitialize something (like ASPI or whatever it is these days that controls hardware), and maybe that resulted in a different configuration than before, which produced the error.
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