Roll her in flour and find the damp spot. 

Forgot the love ewe symbol. 

See, changing that into:

"How do you fuck Shambler's Mom?"

Turns it into a funny Momma joke rather than a lesson in misogyny. 

Look, Willem, Ricky, Trinca - as well as being the highest quality 3 contenders in the amazing Func's Biggest Twat (A Poll) thread, you are also all relative n00bs to this community at least...

(incidentally you are also all n00bs who have made a big and welcome mark whether it's spectacular maps, general mapping contribution, enthusiastic playing or intelligent gaming debate - but that doesn't let you off the hook, OKAY??)

...and all people who don't seem to want to accept the level of banter around here. It's the way that it is. People here respect each other's work and gaming attitudes, and often like each other (in a strictly manly balls-aren't-touching online sort of way), and take the piss at the same time. Take CZG, a prime icon of cockitude if ever there was one. I would struggle to say a complimentary word about him in #tf, but at the same time he's an entertaining guy sometimes, and I will always admire him for his awesome map series. Same with you guys - you fully deserve to be on the FBT(AP) thread, for the simple obvious reason of your responses to it, BUT at the same time I think you're all cool and I totally respect your work/contributions too. One doesn't negate the other.

About the n00b thing....n00bs are totally welcome / encouraged / desired here. The life-blood of the scene and you guys are proving it. But equally it's possible to settle into the whole #tfunc vibe and be part of that... Like Than and Daz and Moz were all relative n00bs once and have plenty of good banter going (although that might be because they're British and therefore have a sense of humour), or like Negke and Bambuz and Ijed who don't really join in the banter but don't get wound up either...

Having said all that, maybe I shouldn't complain, there is plenty of value in people who still get their handbags out at dawn about it all....maybe you guys should just continue ;)


P.S. Incidentally I have a mate near me, and we spend on average at least an hour each day taking the piss over MSN (gaylord this, choad that, batty man the other), occasionally to the point where one of us logs off in disgust. He's a great mate and I just went out and bought him a �20 book on the spur of the moment, just because. 

I was going for +10 offensive. 

you bastard, I was eating when I read that one about the flour 

with shambler. especially about the balls-not-touching thing. 

 

Have you thought about it, what if they're right and you're wrong and you do make everything mostly worse and offensive and most people don't actually think it's fun, but are unafraid to say since they might themselves become targets?

Just saying that *what if*, I don't really believe the above is an accurate description of reality.

And the other way round too of course...

I don't know what it's called, passive aggressive tactics or something, first irritate someone until they get worked up, then blame them for that.

There's a possibility that things could be different and better.

If you look at societies, some places people die at the age of 50, are sick alcoholists and get murdered by masses and abused, yet in the neighbouring country most things are fine and people are friendly and trusting towards each other.
Yet the starting points and physical conditions like natural resources of the two societies could be quite similar.
The problem could be called lack of social capital in the first society.
Acting in the miserable society as if it was inevitable and unchangeable that it was so would be very foolish. 

You do talk a load of shite sometimes though. 

#16145 - possibly, but if they're right they're the minority*, this community has worked for a lot of the rest of, FFS many of us have been here for a decade.

* - or, if not, it's a silent majority, if that's the case, if enough people speak up, then yeah things might change....if they need to.

To be honest, and blunt, I have been amazed by the reactions of some ppl these days, I find the sensitivity a bit hard to grasp - god knows what would have happened in the bad old days of on-line gaming flame wars...


#16146 - exactly, it's my job here now :). 

i'm often surprised when someone posts an angry reply to something that seemed like just a joke or whatever. i think some people just have really thin skin for an internet board.

just my opinion of course, feel free to discard. 

It is important to realise that many of the old-timers here have known each other for 10 years or so at this point.

Shambler #16147: I share your amazement. 

remove n00bs out of the way! 

"It is important to realise that many of the old-timers here have known each other for 10 years or so at this point. "

Fair point. But maybe some consideration could come the other way as well and remember that -I- don't know -THEM-. Text on the internet is sometimes hard to interpret as light hearted ribbing or fuck-you insults. 

That's what I was trying to make clear in my post. -You- are welcome aboard. You are a good mapper and an interesting commentator on the gaming/mapping scene. I respect you and think you're cool in the usual non-balls-touching kinda way. Same with Ricky and Trinca and pretty much everyone else. So take it for granted that it just banter...

If I have beef with anyone I'll raise that in a boring and sensible way. If I have serious beef than I will completely ignore them. 

I'll beat my nickname if you beat yours 

I regularly decide not to press Submit after writing a post here. Or delete most of it.

I'm not saying there are hundreds of people who do this, just some :-/

I'll regret this post soon, but part of me doesn't want to shut up. 

I was really surprised by one of the comments I read in this toppic, something like first they beat you with their knowledge, then they harrish you with their experience.

For me it was a sort of scorn I really could compare with as it made me feel what most of the reaktions had done with true reliability(forgive me the word), as it was something I felt since beginning reflecting in a toppic.

On this board I can't say there's something like a moderator that bans you after screwing up things and talking bullshit. But I must agree there were times I really felt pissed off after my intends to answer in the for me commen right way.

Almost like seeing a long post about pishing and knowing that in the end I'll only feel weird and that most toppics are just posted in the sense of the moment. Or as gb writes, there are times I just throw away all before comitting, as it makes me feel a dumbass, trying to answer the candle. 

Its snowing like hell over here for once! :D 

i know man. What do we do? 

as practically no one in my street is at work, and all the kids aren't at school :) 

just set off in his car to Lanarkshire.

I wonder if I will ever see him again!??! 

We just had our snowpocalypse a few weeks back. It rarely snows here and then, WHAM!, 6 inches in one day. The entire area was incapacitated - closed schools, snow day off from work, etc. It melted a few days later and now we're back to normal. 

all your snow talk.. like you guys are the snow masters. I know how to handle it, but what about new guys? Why can't we be a less snow talking bunch of guys?

Talk like this just reeks of an imminent community meltdown, at least if they're allowed to go by unmediated. Every community has its snowtalkers and I'm sure they consider themselves to be highly cold and fresh, but ultimately it's them, rather than the outside trolls, the ad bots or the idle members that will always ruin things simply out of boredom [i.e. the lack of enough intelligence to think of something more warming to do].

This may seem like harmless fun to some, but it might very well be enough to turn some talented mappers [regardless of whether they have a snow on their lawns or not] away, simply because most people have seen exactly the same shit ruin other websites. It's not new. It's not making the snow melt. Nor are its perpetrators.

In the end it only makes you all look like children who haven't yet learned to control their snowshovel and everybody else gets sick of it pretty quickly. :(