but surely people realise its also the sort of thing that can come across as moronic and high and mighty?

but that is a line that Lun walks all the time too. 

Please tell me you guys are taking the piss. Crikey, no wonder Lun doesn't want to come back here...

*stern voice* oh no, mother wouldn't approve! 

For god sake!!

1 - We're ALL scum!

2 - We all shit, piss, fuck, fuck up, die, stink and then rot.

3 - The sooner we can all accept this, the sooner we can get on with living.

4 - Its a Quake mapping forum, not the fucking houses of parliament, or the people's court. 

heh, i was just pointing out the obvious both ways. 

Cock is also the name of a city in Italy.

Wondering if it has a sister city. 

...where people take the piss all the time, but when it comes to enjoying gaming, mapping, playing new maps, creating stuff, giving feedback, appreciating others' work, we all know the score and respect what goes on. Banter, even really bitchy stuff, is compatible with a good community. Well it was 8 years ago anyway... 

If you're looking for a good example of Lun ruining things for everybody, that StealthQuake420 thread wasn't it. It wasn't vindictive, it was just messing about and making fun of quake mapping contests in general. The reference to the coagula mapping contest where everyone credited Elek, and the three-initials-username-only judging panel were hilarious, I loved it. Lun even said:

I'm glad some of you got it. I really hope the cancellation isn't because of me, because I was just playing the court jester. Biting, but ultimately good natured.


I actually think there are some great examples of lun being a dick and bringing down the mood of a load of threads, but those posts are usually short and sarcastic... his longer posts are usually quite informative and interesting.

Like Shambler was saying though, I'm all for banter and light hearted ribbing, that's what this place was built on, and it's usually done in love rather than hate I think.

There's no need for huge amounts of cynicism and snide comments though, it doesn't make you cool, it just makes you look insecure and it's incredibly fucking unendearing. It reminds me of someone I know who spends most of his time being pessimistic and pedantic about everything. "The club is shit!" "I hate the music, the DJ is terrible" "Oh, those people are dancing really well aren't they...?" and so on and so on.

You can tell that in his head, he's too cool for school, and by insulting all this stuff, he comes off as superior to it all. The reality is he's a miserable fuck you don't want to hang around with. 

It's water off a ducks back unless you're so involved that the least little thing can piss you off.

Having said that there are those who enjoy the game and doing stuff for it, like Distrans, who get put off by the bullshit.

The bullshit that caused the 256 comp to be qausi-cancelled wasn't some thread on a messageboard, but a spam attack by some group of little doughnut punchers meant shutting it down was better than keeping it running.

Having said that, Distrans kept an eye on func and I 'won' a statue for the map I made.

When saying before that I thought Lunaran was just being honest about the 256 thing I thought Spirit meant the comment on the map, not the comp as a whole - I didn't think of the sarky thread because I'd mentally wrote it off. </shrug>

And finally:

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo197/_ijed/Image011.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo197/_ijed/Image012.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo197/_ijed/DSC01157.jpg

The first two are poor quality taken from my phone at the office, the last one being at home when it had just arrived. David was pretty pleased with how everything turned out - he also mentioned that if I had any commisions for him he'd be more than happy to make them.

So if you want a Maquette of a game chracter getting dismembered for your mantlepiece then let him know. Probably too late for christmas though. 

And that's one of Spirit's runes on the shelf next to it to the left as well, laid flat. 

I'm actually super pissed cuz I was looking forward to mapping for that fiend. Then when it was called off I was like "feck, i really wanted that fiend." And then it turned out that the compo continued anyway! WTF! I feel cheated, and I blame Lunaran completely. He owes me a fiend statue. 

You get pissed because people are stupid enough to get pissed?

You notice?

You can't win. 

Stop channeling Tyler Durden ;-) 

I'm all for joking around and ribbing, I'm just not for mean spirited and spiteful comments. That's all. 

Anyway, back to mapping, people! :) 

Oh.

Dear.

God.

I've been away from the net for a week, and while I could post a long rant explain exactly why a large chunk of you seem to be being hypocritical, overly sensitive and destructively pampering... I can't be arsed.

Apparently someone who often provide intelligent, well reasoned if occasionally aserbic comments has decided to take a vacation from the forum (he'll return, everyone does) due to the inability of (some of) the user base to appreciate his humour and for recieving excess vitriol for posting his opinion (a gross hypocrisy that few seem to have pointed out or appreciated). From where I'm sitting, that's a bad thing for the community. You know, that thing you keep purporting to support. Personally, I think a community that has a variety of opinions (some of which you'll agree with, some of which you won't) is going to be stronger and more productive than everyone in mass agreement and pandering to the sensibilities of the most insecure/sensitive member. Otherwise you may as well just talk to yourself and be done.

I cannot understand the mentality that supports, or the point of, a forum where rants about IRC drama and complaining someone is daring to work on content for a game you don't play is a valid post while informative yet sarcastic intelligence is condemmed. Get over yourselves and your precious creations. It's a game.

(Yes. That was the abbrievated version ;) 

"Get over yourselves and your precious creations. It's a game."

Wow, that's fairly insulting. To everyone. Nice work. 

 

Theres a little gecko walking through the rain forest one day, when he comes across a tree with a koala bear in it. He looks up at the tree:

"Whoa - you must be Mr Koala Bear, I'm Mr Gecko, very pleased to meet you sir!"

"Oh, er, well, er, its very nice to meet you too, Mr Geko!" The koala bear replied.

"So, er, what you doin'?" asked the gecko...

"Oh, not much really" said the koala bear - "just sat chillin', munchin on these eucalyptus leaves, smoking this reefer!"

"Really?" asked the gecko "Whats a reefer?"

"Well, you get these leaves, and you roll them into a joint, then you smoke them like this - its pretty cool.... Hey, er, if your not doing anything, you can come up here and join me!"

"Well that would be mighty nice, I think I will...."

So as the story goes, the gecko and the koala bear sat up the tree getting stoned for about 4 hours, when eventually the gecko turned to the koala bear and said

"Well, er, this has been mighty fun, sitting here with you this afternoon, but I must admit, man, I'm feeling pretty thirsty, I think I'm gonna go to the river for a little drink!"

"OK" said the koala bear, "I'll see you later?"

So off went the gecko, through the trees and down to the river, where he bumps into Mr Crocodile

"Oh! Hi there Mr Crocodile, how you doin man?"

"Im fine, Mr gecko, but you certainly look a bit pale"

"Ah - well that probably because I've been sat smoking reefer with Mr Koala Bear all afternoon"

"Smoking Reefer?!?!?" said the crocodile....

"Yes, with Mr Koala Bear"

"Mr Koala bear hey? Well I think I'm gonna go and have a word with this character, where is he?"

"Well he's just past those trees over in the distance there...."

So off to find the koala bear went the crocodile, and when he got tot he tree, he looked up at the koala bear, who dropped his joint, and with a stunned expression on his face shouted......

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And one I actually hadn't heard before. Thank you! Nice presentation too. :)

Wow, that's fairly insulting. To everyone.

I'm not insulted. In context, I didn't find that insulting in the slightest. And I'm pretty sure I'm part of "everyone". *checks membership card* Yep.

Perhaps it's possible that all people on the forum don't have exactly the same reactions and opinions as you? Granted, it's a stretch, but I'm crazy like that... 

When did func get so emotional? 

I don't know what to say about this any more.

Banter is good. Sharp vitriolic wit is good. Games are good mapping is good online communities small or large are good feedback is good demos are good websites about gaming are good general chitchat with like-minded people is good and I'm off to the fucking pub. 

personally, it was when i started menstruating. Maybe we should set up a poll? 

man, you're an easily insulted guy! 

"I'm not insulted. In context, I didn't find that insulting in the slightest. And I'm pretty sure I'm part of "everyone". *checks membership card* Yep. "

Oh shut your pendantic ass up, FFS. Why is there always one that feels the need to point out that your obviously hyperbolic, blanket statement doesn't apply to them?

"Perhaps it's possible that all people on the forum don't have exactly the same reactions and opinions as you? Granted, it's a stretch, but I'm crazy like that..."

NO SHIT!