please come back to finish the flame war. 

It was buried under the CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY SO LET'S ALL BE FUCKING NICE TO EACH OTHER. 

I don't think Lunaran was negative about Spacehulk256 - just honest.

Having said that, he's not an easy guy to like.

Func is typically informative, interesting and occasionally funny.

Complaining about stuff (even if it's done well) until someone takes the bait - I don't see the point.

Stand up comic might be a more logical career choice - then you can complain about everything and people applaud you for it. Doing it on a messageboard is pretty much like that word used a few posts up. 

The gift wrapped box at the top intrigues me. What could be inside? It's so exciting! Somebody shake it and listen...

I bet it is a crate! 

http://members.home.nl/gimli/kreate.gif 

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=60213

Thread of the year IMO. 

That thread was uncalled for. A real bitchy thing. 

thread the 1st time around, I must say I lol'ed.

Its the internet, stop taking everything so seriously :) 

It was a genius act of satire. FFS are you Trinca or something? 

"It was a genius act of satire."

It was demeaning and hurtful and did nothing to unify or further the community. It's a small enough niche as it is - should we really support shitting on each other? 

Satire? Satire is intelligent and constructive.

But yeah, it's really great to drag nice projects in the mud! ZOMGLOLZ!!!1 

should we really support shitting on each other?

Well, I say definitely no.... but as it seems to be the general rule here: let's go for shit ! 

Get a grip ladies. The SpaceHulk mapping competition was a good idea but somewhat OTT in the way it was presented, Lun spoofed that BIG FUCKING DEAL.

Can't believe I have to get involved to justify the utterly bleeding obvious, someone made a joke thread on the forum jesus christ. Have you all been smoking the same crack Trinca does??

P.S. Spirit satire is not intelligent and constructive at all, it's pointed and funny and occasionally cruel - welcome to humour.

*rolls eyes* 

Sometime ago Xen did this to show how happy a flame war made him feel, hope it doesn't get fucked in the HTML of things: '<jackingoff>Flame War!</jackingoff>'

Truly a magical time. 

Bunch of cock.

Word.

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should we really support shitting on each other?

I'm actually into that. Especially when the person has been eating a lot of something spicy, like curry.

It's tingly then, when you rub it in.

^^^That's humor. Albeit, somewhat disgusting and sensationalistic humor, but it falls into that big ol' grey area between "hurtful and demeaning" and "unifying and furthering the community". I'm baffled at some of you taking stuff seriously that was never meant to be taken seriously.

Honestly, I feel like I'm at a tea party with the pastor's grandmother, and I'm having to explain that when she heard a guy on the street say "Fuck off" to another guy, that person wasn't actually talking about sexual intercourse, and that it didn't mean that they were actually *on top of* something, and, and... *shakes head*

(Also, Shamby, thanks for saving me some time; I can just say, oh, also, "What Shambler said") 

Yeah, we're all just way too sensitive. More abuse is what this community really needs. It isn't nearly small enough. 

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but surely people realise its also the sort of thing that can come across as moronic and high and mighty?

but that is a line that Lun walks all the time too. 

Please tell me you guys are taking the piss. Crikey, no wonder Lun doesn't want to come back here...

*stern voice* oh no, mother wouldn't approve! 

For god sake!!

1 - We're ALL scum!

2 - We all shit, piss, fuck, fuck up, die, stink and then rot.

3 - The sooner we can all accept this, the sooner we can get on with living.

4 - Its a Quake mapping forum, not the fucking houses of parliament, or the people's court. 

heh, i was just pointing out the obvious both ways. 

Cock is also the name of a city in Italy.

Wondering if it has a sister city. 

...where people take the piss all the time, but when it comes to enjoying gaming, mapping, playing new maps, creating stuff, giving feedback, appreciating others' work, we all know the score and respect what goes on. Banter, even really bitchy stuff, is compatible with a good community. Well it was 8 years ago anyway... 

If you're looking for a good example of Lun ruining things for everybody, that StealthQuake420 thread wasn't it. It wasn't vindictive, it was just messing about and making fun of quake mapping contests in general. The reference to the coagula mapping contest where everyone credited Elek, and the three-initials-username-only judging panel were hilarious, I loved it. Lun even said:

I'm glad some of you got it. I really hope the cancellation isn't because of me, because I was just playing the court jester. Biting, but ultimately good natured.


I actually think there are some great examples of lun being a dick and bringing down the mood of a load of threads, but those posts are usually short and sarcastic... his longer posts are usually quite informative and interesting.

Like Shambler was saying though, I'm all for banter and light hearted ribbing, that's what this place was built on, and it's usually done in love rather than hate I think.

There's no need for huge amounts of cynicism and snide comments though, it doesn't make you cool, it just makes you look insecure and it's incredibly fucking unendearing. It reminds me of someone I know who spends most of his time being pessimistic and pedantic about everything. "The club is shit!" "I hate the music, the DJ is terrible" "Oh, those people are dancing really well aren't they...?" and so on and so on.

You can tell that in his head, he's too cool for school, and by insulting all this stuff, he comes off as superior to it all. The reality is he's a miserable fuck you don't want to hang around with.