do you test on Windows? 

No, I test on Mac. I test in Fitz and I test in the software Quake port that I have. 

ah, ok. 

This map just gave me a full-blown "when I first played Quake"-flashback. I did not have the original back then, so no soundtrack. Now I played with soundtrack. And somehow the mixture of the wonderful map, the dark music and the occasional feeling of being lost made me feel exactly like back then.
http://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/oblivion.xml

I wish there would be more maps like that. True Quake! \m/ ;) 

Can anyone help me with a definition of turtle map ? What is a turtle map, what makes it "turtle" ? I couldnt find answer by mr.google 

It's a map done in one week's time. 

It's essentially a speedmap done slow. Not long enough for a proper release, but enough time to make something a lot more polished than you could in a few hours. 

for info. 

and is completable in less than 20 seconds ;D 

I got a new pc and a fast net connection. Yay!

Unfortunately my pc wont run fitzquake properly for some reason and the screen is just complete garbage. I get the same shit with all GlQuake versions too, so it is probably some stupid incompatibility with Quake and my gfx card :(

Specs below. If anyone has any idea how to solve this particular problem then please help

core 2 Quad 2.83
4gb ram
Radeon 4850 1gb
XP SP3, DX 9

I haven't yet investigated the weirder engines like darkplaces, but software quake works ok, so I can probably just about manage with bengt's winquake version for the time being. 

Try different driver verions:

http://www.guru3d.com 

http://downloads.guru3d.com/ATI-Catalyst-8.11-WHQL-XP-32-bit-download-2118.html 

0:15 for a n00b like me...
http://speeddemosarchive.com/quake/demos/ER/oblv_015.dz

...down to 0:12...
http://speeddemosarchive.com/quake/demos/ER/oblv_012.dz 

0:19 on nightmare :)

http://speeddemosarchive.com/quake/demos/NR/oblv_019.dz 

:P 

:) 

:P 

:: http://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/oblivion.xml

Page looks great. 

i just want to say sorry Vondur and Lunaran

WAS THE FUCKING AND AS ALWAYS SCAMPIE THAT BAN AND REMOVE THE OP!!!

WHY DONT U GET A LIFE STUPID FUCK? 

and dont put the fault on other people.. you are such a chirld... get a gun and shoot your self u frustrated fuck... 

try gl_ztrick 0 

frib/than: there's no ztrick in fitzquake, so that shouldn't help (if it does anyway, i'm confused) 

There is, and it does.

My display was completely fucked in Fitz when I got an ATI card. It took me ages to figure out what it was. I just had gl_ztrick 1 lingering in my config files from the old days.

Apparently gl_ztrick 1 uses a slightly dodgy method of clearing the depth buffer that isn't supported on ATI cards/drivers. At least that's what a graphics programmer at work said when I asked him about it - he could just be guessing. I suppose if anyone would know, it'd be you metl :D 

You're probably right... my memory of this is very hazy (obviously) but now that I think about it, I think what really happened to me was that everything except FitzQuake was fucked, and FQ was the only one that worked properly.

I still had to figure out the problem and fix it so I could get my QW client and everything else working properly, but if this was the way it all went down then as you suggested, FitzQuake is the win and the rest lose. 

try gl_ztrick 0